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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Batteries have infinite energy now? No storage issues due to electrical surges, heat, cold, or anything else that makes batteries sub optimal? While seemingly by magic, mining rare earth minerals spreads its environmental impact over 10-15 years of the lifetime of the battery with 0 negative impact to the area the mine is located?

Oh wait... None of that is true so I guess you can try again.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Sodium batteries require very little rare earths in comparison to lithium batteries.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It really is too bad about the weak life cycle, poor charge/discharge rate, and incredibly low voltage that begin the story of "Why don't we just use sodium ion batteries?" and place it directly in the "tragedy" section of the book store.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why are people so mad that batteries are better than dead dinosaur farts? What is the weird obsession with burning ooze and gasses from mother earth? We have better options?

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why are people so mad that batteries are better than dead dinosaur farts? What is the weird obsession with burning ooze and gasses from mother earth? We have better options?

Does it hurt being this ignorant or is it truly as blissful as they say?

The fact that you don't understand battery materials are pulled from the ground in much the same way that oil and gas is speaks volumes about value of your opinions.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Once. They are pulled from the ground once. After which they are essentially infinitely recyclable.

Oil/gas is extracted then used a single time and it's gone.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

After which they are essentially infinitely recyclable.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is "infinitely recyclable". Literally defies physics.

Lets also not forget that oil is recyclable.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Things can be infinitely recyclable. But since you're such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery? I'm not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Things can be infinitely recyclable. But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery? I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

No, nothing can be recycled to infinite. It is asinine to even attempt to assert that.

But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery?

Recycling Lithium batteries recovers approximately 20-96% of materials. This means best case scenario, which is not the norm in battery recycling, every time a battery is recycled 4% of the materials are lost.

Doesn't take a math genius to see how quickly finite resources dry up with a 4% loss every single time a batteries life ends.

I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

Funny because I never said gas was recyclable. You should learn to read before you try to make snide comments.

I hope the simple math and explaination I used is understandable to you, but I am not expecting much.

[–] joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Like I thought, you're misunderstanding what you're reading.

Yes current recycling processes can lose 4% of the material. But that's not because they aren't recoverable, that's because it's not currently financially feasible to recover it all.

And that's just the recycling part. For someone suggesting that I should read better you sure aren't great at reading either. So I'll ask it again.

What part of the metal atoms degrade as part of them being used in batteries?

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago

Like I thought, you’re misunderstanding what you’re reading.

Like I thought, you have nothing meaningful to say. I won't waste further time with you.

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