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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No, that’s just random being random. In order for something truly random to feel less random to the average person, you have to reduce the repetition.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk why the donwvotes. This is how these players implement shuffle, because people don't actually want a random shuffle most times.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Maybe people disliked my fun fact, maybe I came off the wrong way, maybe people took offense at my typo. It doesn’t matter much. I comment for me! (This comment included)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This is the difference between randomly choosing songs and randomly choosing songs without repetition.

Both are random but the later is much better for humans.

https://www.statisticshowto.com/sampling-with-replacement-without/

Of course there are other possible methods of choosing. It seems like Spotify is doing some kind of weighting from another comment posted here.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

... And here I am, expecting "shuffle" to be a random ordering without repetition at all, like a silly person apparently.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

This, the Shuffle function should play every song exactly once, just in a random order. This is what cd players have been supporting since the late '80s.

It is a very simple algorithm but Spotify turned it into something complex that barely works. By default, in large playlists, it will heavily prioritize some songs while others are almost never heard. People have complained about this for years and there is an option in the settings for it now, although I am not yet sure if that setting really disables all of the "smart" algorithms Spotify has associated with shuffle.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You mean "shuffle" like when you shuffle a deck of cards and have exactly the same cards still but in a different order with no single card repeating because you started out with a deck of cards and why would there suddenly be an extra card or 5 of the same face value in the deck because that's just crazy talk? That kind of shuffle?

Yeah sorry, Spotify doesn't do that.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

My problem with Spotify shuffle was that it always ended up throwing a similar order of songs. The same group of songs would end up in the same general position on the playlist every time. It's not random, and it stands to reason that people doesn't actually want real random order. But it was super obvious, noticeable and quite annoying to hit the same songs at the same time on your walk every single time. They even admitted publicly that their shuffle function sucks.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

that is exactly what it does

the fewer repeats is for when you listen to the same playlist multiple times, not for the sequence itself