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[Video] Hillary Clinton brags about Obama and Bill Clinton deporting more people than Trump. Lies about not locking up children (i.imgur.com)

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Obama Immigrant Detention Policies Under Fire

the Los Angeles-based Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law and Obama administration officials have just a few days left to settle a lawsuit challenging the detention facilities for more than 2,000 women with children, who came here during last summer's border surge. The families are being held in detention centers in Texas and Pennsylvania. A federal judge in Los Angeles issued a preliminary ruling finding that the administration is violating an 18-year-old court settlement, Flores v. Meese. The settlement requires the government to house migrant children in "the least restrictive environment" or release them to relatives. The judge gave federal officials and the Center for Human Rights and Constitutional Law time to reach an agreement on how to implement her ruling before she makes it final.

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[+] kikutwo@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're comparing in custody to executed on the street

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that better??? Once someone is in custody it's directly the responsibility of the state to ensure their well-being. To allow people to die in the camps from bad conditions is just as inexcusable as killing people in the streets. One is just a little more out of sight than the other.

[+] kikutwo@lemmy.world -6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, executing someone in cold blood is worse than having poorly designed medical attention.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Are you familiar with the concept of social murder? Because we have an awful lot of that in the US but it gets kindly ignored because it's just a result of the system functioning the way it does.

I guess if they just disappeared Renee and Alex and kept them in a box where they slowly died over the course of months, it would be preferable. As long as there was paperwork filled out and it had a big official red stamp, and Congress passed a law saying it was ok to arrest them for illegally observing federal agents, it's fine! This way, nobody would be directly pulling the trigger, and their deaths would be the result of systemic failures that nobody could have seen coming.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

No, one just takes longer.