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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Specifically Russian leadership. Without a doubt. Try this: "Putin is bad for Russia"

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Man, sometimes I hate internet discourse, everything is hyperbole all the time and the only recognized positions are extremes.

"maybe next time dont listen to russian propaganda." - "You think [...] Brexit only exists because of Russia?"
"Russia is bad for this world" - "Are you suggesting Russia should be destroyed?"

It's so draining.

[–] _Nico198X_@piefed.europe.pub 4 points 1 day ago

totally agree. they're bad faith actors. said my piece, but not for his benefit. now i block him.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, almost as draining as hearing idiots claim that everything is part of a huge Russian plot, so they don't have to actually change their failing strategies.

It's been 10 years now and you chuckleheads are still doing it.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And again jumping on shit nobody here said or even insinuated.

Someone just mentions that Brits should not have listened to Russian propaganda concerning Brexit and you immediately start this entire script fighting one strawman after another, somehow ending up in american politics for fucks sake.

Nobody said it was only due to propaganda, nobody even said it was mainly due to propaganda, nobody said that Russia should be destroyed.

Calm down mate, take a breather and stop fighting things you just imagine that other people are saying, because they're not.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~This 'I’m so tired of internet discourse' act is a classic move to shut down a conversation you're losing. You’re conflating a critique of a toxic leadership with a call for destruction because you can’t actually defend Putin’s record. Russia’s military is an international embarrassment and its leadership is a global parasite; those aren't 'extreme positions,' they’re the consensus of anyone not on the Kremlin's payroll. You aren't 'drained'—you're just out of arguments.~~

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, I'm not the person you were responding to and I'm on your side in this?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My bad I am not being thoughtful about this, I am responding to russian shills with AI responses I truly am putting in the minimal amount of effort. Sorry!

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

with AI responses

Oh come on!

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That is the point!

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

having listened to enough NAFO chickenhawks talk about how Russia is "orcs" who have no respect for human life while they celebrate the deaths of conscripts from their couch, you might want to be specific about that in the future

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Well I never mentioned destroying anyone so I didn't think I needed to specify what needed to be destroyed until that was brought up.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Try this: "Russia is bad for this world"

is what I was responding to

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I was actually going to say more horrid shit instead of just that but I remembered I have Russian friends and didn't actually feel that way I am just angry.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, and I get that.

But demonizing entire peoples is part of how warmongers get us to support this awful shit to begin with. It's one reason why my take is no war but class war, personally.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

TBH, Russia is a country and does not equal Russians citizen. Saying that a country or its existence is bad, doesn't mean all people with citizenship of that county are bad. People will still be there when a country is dissolved.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

OK, so you're calling for Russia to be dissolved?

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

IDK, I couldn't think of what kind of repercussions that would have... That would really depend on how it is dissolved and what would come after it, I suppose.

But TBH, with the right handling, organization and proper new structure, every nation should be dissolved... Cosmopolitanism would have its perks.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Or maybe a worldwide workers' state? Think we're getting there now . . .

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Maybe. Als long as it isn't authoritarian, protects the weak from the strong and provides the people with the most personal positive freedom, security and safety, without infringing on the personal freedom of others, it should be fine. On the specifics we will have to work together on.

But we are leading off track. Currently I would say that the machinations of Russia, China, the U.S, Israel, and Iran are not good for the world. And in case authoritarian regimes, this can be traced back to the leaders of these countries, not the population. The fish stinks from the head. So saying this or that country is bad, doesn't mean the population should suffer.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Yes. There is a great point a Greenlander made during that recent thing it was something about "hey americans don't say sorry for trump we are judging you as a whole the same way you judge russia as a whole" and I didn't like that so I should have been more careful with my wording.