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What the fuck is the 82nd Airborne Paratroopers gonna find if they touch down in Iran? This orange fucking moron doesn't understand the only way to resolve this is to install somebody, to support the rebellion against Ayatollah's factions, and they're only polarizing candidates against them by bombing cities, putting boots on the ground, and allowing whatever the fuck Israel thinks its doing.
And all but 2 GOP house members are completely on board. Every GOP senator. All of them.
Yes, I don't think a ground invasion of Iran is highly unlikely anymore, it is just unlikely.
I think it is trending towards "likely" every hour though. There are no offramps on the horizon here in my opinion.
Here is the thing I don't think the Trump will try to occupy Iran, I just think ground troops might be used to destroy parts of it more thoroughly.
They're going to continue their bombing over the summer; they will send in some boots who will get absolutely destroyed, 100's maybe thousands. Then they will drop a nuke right before the mid-terms claiming it was to save American lives (the same line they used in ww2 with Japan). That will be the emergency he needs to claim we're in a world war or whatever to suspend elections.
I think the "offramp" for the lunatics that doesn't involve a ground invasion is using nukes. But I am just an anti-American tinfoil hat wearing rando on the net...
Aren’t we all
Congress in general is super okay with doing war against Iran though.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hakeem-jeffries-wont-commit-iran-war-funding-defense-department-rcna262271
2 out of 210 DNC crossed the aisle, and 2 GOP as well, but thats literally less than 1% so fuck off with blaming dems for GOP actions.
Another vote in the senate was 47:53 with nobody crossing the aisle.
I'm not blaming. They're all for the action.
And it's what 4 different ones voting to still fund Trump?
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5770381-dhs-funding-democrats/
Oh wow you found 4, gj, I can find well over 200 corrupt pos red ties.
Again the point is they aren't against attacking Iran, just the optics of how's it's being done.
208 DNC House Reps voted for a war powers resolution. Every single DNC senator voted for it.
You're just making a blatantly false statement.
You really need reading comprehension.
ditto
I'm not the one trying to argue for a war with Iran or ignore that both parties yes both this time are more than happy to attack Iran.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hakeem-jeffries-wont-commit-iran-war-funding-defense-department-rcna262271
Our house minority leader is out there saying trump give us a reason to give you money for these aggressive actions. Just like 1st time he attacked Iran and after Venezuela, and what they did when Bush was attacking Iraq and Afghanistan
You 100% argue for war, I've seen you post anti-NATO shit all the time.
Please show me where I'm arguing for war. Also curious if you confused me with a different user
I definitely would recognize you.
So nothing?
You're not really worth my time, tbh.
So your go to move is just calling people names or whatever you are currently doing?
Lmao
So yes
It was just a very ironic comment given you've never participated in any civil debate with me.
I don't think I've ever seen you be civil
Anti-NATO is anti-war, see Libya, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.
The articles of NATO have been called upon for defence only one time, and since no country was found responsible there has never been a NATO response and NATO has never attacked anyone.
NATO is the world's largest defence pact and it's biggest opponents are Russia and China who want to expand their borders with military aggression.
All three were NATO operations. So was Iraq part 1. And even when articles of defense aren't called, NATO allows countries like America and France to use their resources and bases to carry out its own wars of imperialism.
Do you believe NATO needs to defend itself from a country on the other side of the planet?
Correct, America, France, etc have attacked other nations. NATO has not. NATO is a group of 32 nations wherein if one of them is attacked then they all come to the defence of that member. To be anti-NATO is to be pro-war.
When Iraq was invaded several NATO member strongly opposed it, and now that Iran is being attack the USA is being denied logistics support from many nations.
The resolution NATO used to justify bombing Libya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973
NATO troops in Afghanistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolute_Support_Mission
It's one thing to oppose NATO, it's another to not only oppose NATO but also the entire UN. Both of those links are UN Resolutions. You're easily the most pro-war mf on this platform.
Do you think bombing Libya was the anti-war position? When the UN supports it, the UN has adopted a pro-war position.
UN was created as a result of WWII. It is participated in by nations as a means of diplomacy. It's sole purpose is to prevent the outbreak of global war, and nothing else. The actions in Libya, which did not condone invasion or occupation, were to prevent unnecessary casualties in the region.
The UN proceeded to recognize the puppet South Korean government (there was literally only 1 ballet presented, if you wanted to vote against the US-chosen candidate, you had to ask the US guards for the other ballet) as the government of all of Korea, and ignore the massacres it was carrying out, essentially creating a situation where either the USSR and China had to accept the US conquering their neighbor or go to war with the US. That's the closest we've been to actual global war, having half the planet on opposing sides of a war again. The UN has mostly been a tool for American soft power.
Libya went from the highest Human Development Index in Africa to open air slave markets. The actions in Libya caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary casualties and displaced millions.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the UN's stated mission, but we have look at its actual actions. In practice, it does nothing to constrain the biggest threat to world peace, America, while it does constrain anyone who tries to stand up to us.
They've been doing that in Iran for half a century. We have dozens of examples, America supporting a puppet faction has never turned out better for the people.
The best thing america can do for the iranian people is end all sanctions and fuck off. Their struggle isn't advanced by being under siege.
This tankie is always good for a laugh.
So do you want to point to a single place that is better off after America armed a puppet faction?
Or just shriek "tankie" and shut down?
Iran is already China's Puppet faction like Syria was Russia's. The resistance in Iran is very real, a push to end dictatorship, but clearly the USA under the orange fuck's leadership is more interested in expanding Israeli borders.
China trading with Iran after America said nobody is allowed to and armed terrorists doesn't make Iran a Chinese puppet, or Syria for that matter.
But you still can't name a place that is better off after America armed some faction.
They are intentionally targeting left leaning activists and politicians in their homes. They don't want a stable government to take over, regardless of who it favors.
Trump doesn't, Americans do
The Americans who have or will have any say in the matter don't.
Last time Iran had a left-leaning government, the US armed a puppet faction and got the Shah in power, who made things bad enough the people got behind the current government. Opposing socialism has bipartisan support in DC.