Absolutely, but that’s the direction the federal government has gone, and that’s the way the left demanded they go - and like I’ve been saying, they need to understand that the laws will be used against them too eventually. Here we are, didn’t take long at all - and now they’re crying about it lol

[–] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

I think we're roughly on the same page here, but I'm slightly confused. Mostly because I think our conceptions of "The Left" differ, and that "the left" never asked for laws clamping down on freedom of speech. Certainly not for the last 20 years or so. (Just opposing the brain-dead calls for 18c to be removed).

These specific laws to ban these phrases from this post was passed by the QLD government in Queensland.

I can still say from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free because I'm not in Queensland.

The federal government, being stupid, recently passed extra "hate speech" laws which I believe will end up simply being used against political opponents. Right now it's anyone calling for the government to stop supporting genocide, but who knows what they'll be used for in the future.

Currently, the federal legislation doesn't ban specific phrases, as far as I'm aware.

It's all stupid, because racial hate speech was already illegal.

"The left" (which I don't include the Labor party as a part of, they're centre at best, and centre right if we're being honest), never asked for extra stupid laws like this. And the biggest targets currently of our new hate speech laws will likely be leftist groups, since they're the ones who are in opposition to Israel's genocide, and the lobby groups from Israel who are basically telling our government what laws they'd like them to enact.

To be clear, these other groups of people on "the left" (centrists) talking about identity politics are stupid, and playing right into the hands of "the right" doing the same thing, only on opposite sides of "the debate", meanwhile oligarchs are bleeding all of us dry...

Do these laws clamp down on Nazis (the far right) too? Sure, but I don't actually believe that was the intended target, since again, Nazi speech was already illegal.

I hate the way politics is going in our country...

You and I don't seem to agree on much, but I'm happy at least we can agree that laws clamping down on political speech is dangerous and should be fought against at all costs.