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Or are just fucked and perma kicked out of NATO and the UN? Or will we have to do a big World Wide Appology saying yes we fucked up but we are trying/will fix it.?

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[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

From the perspective of a non-influential Canadian citizen, you need to clean house before trust can be restored.

You don't trust a crack addict because they told you they're clean. Trust needs to be rebuilt and it takes a lot of time and effort.

Your democracy is sick, and Trump is the symptom, not the problem.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 10 points 3 weeks ago

We’re going to have to de-Nazify the entire system, from the leaders to the voters. Ban them from holding office, strip their voting rights, destroy the ability for wealthy individuals or special interests to buy politicians. There’s some good ideas at the core of American democracy, but we’ve not only fucked it up, there’s other countries that have come along since our founding and are doing it better. Strip the country to its bones, salvage what worked, fix what didn’t, and toss a lot of the hubris.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Canadian democracy has all the same problems as the USA. Housing crises, healthcare crisis, lack of economic growth for all but the top 10%, over-immigration, etc.

Y'all are just more polite about it. But you flip flop between two major parties that do nothing to improve things, and your third parties make a lot of noise, but also do nothing.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think you're forgetting some pretty key differences like ICE kidnappings, starting tariff wars, bombings, etc

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You don't have the capabilities to do any of that. Your navy can barely perform coastal patrol adequately...

Your military has been in shambles for 40 years, you have no border police, and your trade is still mostly natural resources...

your government systematically doesn't develop your economy... and keeps doubling down on natural resource exports... which are 53% of your exports by value...

and your citizens get poorer and poorer...

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Brother I don't think you realize how much more messed up America is than Canada. No country is perfect but America has been in a state of complete chaos with no signs of slowing. Trump literally threatened genocide and you think you're on the right side of history lol.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You aren't wrong.

We're stuck with the first past the post electoral system which is following the same route of falling into the 2 party trap. Corporations are buying those two parties and they are both further right than I think a lot of Canadians want, but the left leaning parties are a hard option to vote for, out of fear of the rightmost party getting the seat of power.

Trudeau did get elected originally on the promise of electoral reform with the NDP, but that promise was one of many he broke, and who knows how long before we can get it back as a voter issue.

Right now no one can get past the fear of economic uncertainty, which is being used by both the Liberals and Conservatives to ignore things that are much bigger in the long run, like climate change, and electoral stagnation.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The original idea of the first past the post setup was that the second past the post was the vice president.

We've undone that.

The House are the people's representatives, the Senate was supposed to be the States' representatives, and since each state is supposed to be equal, all states have two senators. It was supposed to be a check on the mob rule of the House.

We've also undone that.

It's no wonder we are in the state we are in now. We've undone ourselves completely.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most 1st world democracies are stuck in this trap, because their voters won't accept short term pain that is necessarily for long term gains. They won't raise taxes, they won't invest in long term capital projects, and they all want to make as much money as possible as quickly as possible and blow it on all hedonistic pleasure, hence why everyone seeks to financial everything and pursue asset value growth...

The problem being that asset growth makes the rich richer, and deprives those without assets from every having a piece of the pie. It also devalues labor...

The sad truth is if you made some bargain, like asset values deflate buy 25%, by salaries double over the next decade... the voters won't ever accept it. Even if in the long run it would make everyone's lives better. Because they want their homes and stocks to keep doubling in value every 10 years, even as the COL climbs 50% higher than inflation.