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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie Sanders is also a Democrat. Big parties, by definition, have people from all over the political spectrum inside.

I don't know enough about him, but from what I read he is very different from Orban and his victory will be a case study for politicians all over the world that want to defeat Trumplike right wing politicians.

[–] fun_times@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Big parties in FPTP and other non-proportional systems have people from all over the political spectrum.

Big parties in MMP and other proportional systems have ideologies and stick to their ideologies.

Bernie Sanders would never be in the same party as Joe Biden in a proportionally representative democracy.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

FPTP is the poison that turns a good idea into a farce. On the surface, it's far simpler to explain and thus a better way to "ease" people unfamiliar with democracy into the concept without having to explain the more democratic, but also more complex options.

It should be an initial stage at best, from which a more democratic solution would be developed, but by the time the need for that becomes obvious, the emerging "main" parties have a vested interest in maintaining power.

I don't have a perfect solution. Humans are complex and flawed and education can be difficult if the motivation isn't obvious. But I think pushing for more representative systems should be a priority for any movement trying to redeem democratic systems.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

FPTP is crap, but all electoral systems can be gamed and can produce anomalous and antidemocratic results in various edge cases.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 39 minutes ago

True. That's why education and critical thinking is vital to maintaining a healthy democracy.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Big parties in MMP and other proportional systems have ideologies and stick to their ideologies.

Not really because big parties get more seats. In a voting circle with less people there will only be 1 or 2 seats available for that circle, so, they will go either 2 for the gov party or 1 for the gov and 1 for the main opposition party.

Smaller parties will only elect seats in the capital or big cities, which means if you want to have a political career you choose the party that more or less aligns with you from the big ones.