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[–] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I do not get these people saying Ukraine is "destroying Russia" with super dramatic thumbnails and stuff (it is clickbait). It seems like Ukraine might be the bigger loser here based on what you said and showed.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What i find most disgusting and obscene is when they gleefully celebrate Russians dying while claiming to support Ukrainians. Because what that actually means is they celebrate Ukrainians dying. They don't care that for every Russian who dies there are at least five or more Ukrainians who die. To them that is a price worth paying to satisfy their hatred of Russians.

It would be just as disgusting if we were to celebrate Ukrainian soldiers dying, and not only because we feel horrible for those poor people who were violently conscripted and forced to die for the Nazi regime. No one who supports Russia is glad that forcefully conscripted Ukrainians are dying. We find it awful and tragic and incredibly sad, because it's literally a fratricidal war.

And the same applies to all those videos and posts you see gloating about how "Russia is stalled" or "Russia is advancing too slowly", because that also comes at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives. That isn't something to celebrate, it's something to be appalled by. It won't change the eventual outcome, it just drags it out.

It makes absolutely no sense, if you actually want the best for Ukraine, to be glad that the war is being prolonged. Every day that this goes on more of Ukraine is ruined and more of its people die or leave forever. And for what? To hurt Russia and to give a kleptocratic fascist regime more time to personally enrich themselves at the cost of their own people's lives.

[–] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I just want the Ukrainian fascist problem to be solved and for this whole war to be over for them (because this war is just bad for everyone involved). The pro-Ukraine side is clearly one to gloss over the Ukrainian fascist problem because Russia is the scary country of the East that needs to be taught a lesson (which is a telltale example of how liberals are ignorant of the fact that their actions end up supporting fascists indirectly).

To be clear, I am not super fond of Russia, but the fact of the matter is that NATO is an imperialist organization and expanding to Russia's borders was a legitimate threat (though I do not support the invasion of Ukraine because of the lives lost from it); liberals treat the anti-NATO mindset like it is illogical to believe that the "civilized West" would ever commit acts of imperialism, but they literally are all the time (under the form of modern neoimperialism).