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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The latter is not universal. Several popes have explicitly stated that they are indeed fallible (which would render total infallibility self-contradictory). Also, infallibility is generally limited in certain ways that I won't bother researching in enough depth to put into a concise description. But the pope can't just make up some random shit and have it automatically considered to be the word of God.

Of course, pointing out that someone violates the basic tenets of Catholicism while naming those specific tenets is well within "the pope is right" territory.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the infallibility part is only when he speaks "ex cathedra" which is a pretty narrow and specific time, but I'm not a Catholic.

A quick Google says the last time that was done was in 1950.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

And that's why francis had to clarify that he wasn't speaking infallibly when he said he hoped hell was empty

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I appreciate the nuanced info. It's pretty tough to find when discussing religion on platforms like this. It helps logical people trapped by corrupted religious beliefs realize that its okay, even encouraged, to keep their core beliefs intact while still being able to condemn those within their religion that work to corrupt the church.

If all you see is church/religion bad, then they'll just dismiss you and move on. And the corrupt version of Christianity or Islam or Judaism or what have you will continue growing