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By jerking off about something Hillary said nearly 20 years ago?
Yes I'm sure we'll gain much insight from discussing how much we all hate the Clintons again.
Edit: that is a crazy instadownvote — sus
Will you forgive trump crimes after he is out of office?
No, just like I won't be forgiving or forgetting your inability to debate in good faith.
If you think jerking yourself off over a widely hated woman is doing anything productive you're a muppet.
Go back to Reddit
Since you are the one who defend her. It is you who is jerking off to her.
I am discussing in good faith. I want to see your consistancy . You proved you are inconsistant
I am consistent, whether it is Hillary, Trump, or any other warmonger. I do not forget about their crimes and evil rhetoric once they are out of office.
Your comment is a joke, you’re illiterate and ragebaiting
As I was saying, one of the components of a voter suppression campaign, is increased rhetoric of Both Sides Are The Same variety. The idea is to maximize cynicism. And the workrate should increase as the important election approaches.
You're merely engaging in, and providing an example of the tactic in real time.
Prove it
Where did I said both parties are the same? Hillary support war on Iran, Trump support the war on Iran, they are the same in this specific issue but because you Americans are treating your parties as cults , you see everything as a sabotage campaign. Just grow up guys
You are simply delusional and think someone watching this video will magically refuse to vote for some good democrats like AOC or Ro Khana .
False. It is you who if I posted an old video of Trump defending wars you will praise me and kiss my forehead . If trump was a democrats you would get mad at me in the same way you are mad about this video or if I post the video of Trump accusing Biden of trying to start world war 3 , you would not ask me why did I post an few year old video
I make a valid observation of voter disenfranchisement tactics, you verify same.
Check Proof: your word count
You're leaning into this as though your life depended on it.
You are making invalid bullshit. You are mad that i posted a video about a war monger. That's all because you are a delusional cultist. Funny how there is many post about people attacking aoc and you cultist are nowhere to be found but the politician how backed every single intervention make you all go crazy
And you're doing heavy lifting for Donald Trump.
If you are unable to detect how things have been a smidge different for the planet since the Trump regime took power, then you're exactly the voice that Donald Trump wants to hear.
Know with confidence that you're working in unison with a billionaire-class funded campaign to supress the democrat voter turnout.
You are dilusional. I talked bad abour Trump a lot more than you. You are mad thst I posted a post about a warmonger
Hilary would definitly be better for americans but as bad when it comes to Iran amd Gaza. Hilary may even have more competent admin that would allow israel and the usa cresting a failed state in Iran
Hilary is not funded by billionaire? You are dilusional
I guess you're right. The speculative scenario you're imagining here sounds horrific.
Thankfully, we only have the reality Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth to deal with.
I can see how what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are up to currently, is absolutely eclipsed by the horrors of Hillary Clinton quotes from almost two decades ago.
And that's why I am vocal about trump attrocities. Also because american presidents got away with vietnam, afghsnistan, iraq, libya, syria and gaza , Trump will get away with his war crimes.
Like I said a million of time . I do not forget about warmongers , I will talk about Trump war crimes till I die
Like I said, rhetoric of the Both Sides are the Same variety, as a major election approaches, is very, very helpful for Donald Trump.
You are discussing in very bad faith. You are too delusional if you believe that posting a video about Hillary's warmongering will make people not vote for a good candidate like AOC or Ro Khanna. Everybody knows each politician only represents themselves; Ro Khanna is not held accountable for something another Democrat says, for example.
How is Hillary threatening Iran for a lie she invented about an imaginary Iranian nuclear program not as bad as Trump telling the same lie to start a war?
There are certain users who call AOC a secret Zionist. Why didn't it bother you as much as a video about Hillary the warmonger, who backed up all American foreign intervention only to later pretend that it was a mistake?
Hillary's warmongering is the specific phrase that you are attempting to repeat as much as humanly possible.
Once again, what is currently happening at the hands of Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, is absolutely uninteresting to you.
By the way, your antics are harmful to excellent Democrats like AOC.
Are you denying that she supported many American interventions resulting failed states and hundred thousands of death. when she was in position of power like in Libya? How calling her a war monger is not accurate
Once again I am vocal about it. You are turning a blind eye about it because you want to convince yourself that I am supporting Trump . That's what cultists does .
By the way you blindly defending warmongers when they are democrats is currently what harm aoc.
How about addressing my points and questions for once. Why didn't it bother you when there was posts criticizing AOC?
Tl;dr: one more repetition of Hillary is a warmonger, and a declaration of intent to repeat it.
I asked you to explain how she is not a warmonger. You refused. How is that not bad faith by you?
Your confusion is based on the idea that there is a debate happening.
As the midterm elections approach, you will ramp up rhetoric against high profile Democrats.
I'm describing a specific tactic, and you're executing on that tactic.
What you are doing is in keeping with what I'm claiming.
There is no need to address your concerns re: bad faith.
You didn't answer the question . How Hillary is not a warmonger ?
You have zero evidence that I am doing that
Bad faith is to not answers people questions, accuse people with no solid evidence. It is you who is doing it.
If you don't want to address my concerns just disengage
Tl;dr:
Additional repetition of Hillary is a Warmonger.
See above summary. See your future comments history.
All consistent with my claim.
For example, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War prays using fake Bible verses from Pulp Fiction, in support of what he is selling as a holy War.
For normal people, the visceral response to Pete Hegseth trying to sell some Christian Nationalist bullshit, in conjunction with the President posting memes of himself as Christ, is to want to get them out of power quick fast and in a hurry.
But not you. You see the same reality and go: This calls for complaining about an old Democrat.
As long as you don't an good argument disproving my point, I will keep repeating it
Still waiting for the proofs
Did I ever defended him? I know Pete is a nazi and war mongers and he is also incompetent. I still remember him unable to even keep classified information private . I compared Trump to Hitler multiple time
I talk badly about politicians from both side, while you can only condemn . This literally like the fifth goddamn time I said something along that line in this post but again cultists like you love to ignore things that doesn't fit your narrative
False. No action on my part will stop you.
Again, in keeping with my thesis.
Actually no action my my part will stop you for claiming that I try to sabotage dems chance of winning
Nonsense.
When your whataboutism stops, my criticism of your actions (I'd go after anyone else doing that shit) will just evaporate.
If your initial post and comments were all about We need AOC, and/or All AIPAC candidates need to be replaced, you'd have support instead.
Whataboutism is hypocrites like you're favorite word. There's no whataboutism about holding all politicians the same when they use the same rhetoric. When Hillary claimed Iran was seeking a nuke without proof, she was wrong; when Trump says the same thing, he is wrong.
So you want me to only keeps about the good democrats? You are proving again that you think like a cultist , you don't want people to criticize the warmonger on your side only about the warmonger on the other side. I am sorry but I will keep condemn bad people no matter what is their affiliation and praise them when they do something good.
Tl;dr: The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans! See? Look how similar they are!
Whataboutism
It's not a favorite word. It's an accurate one.
An accurate word for what you're doing is strawmanning
Tl;dr: I will do what I can to discourage democrats from voting.
No, you'll increase the volume and quantity of Democrats Bad/Just as Bad/Whatabout Hilary rhetoric.
You will do so with passion. No one, and no thing will stop you.
Maximal engagement regarding who isn't in power, Minimal engagement about the current atrocities being committed by the current regime.
It's what you have been doing, and what you will continue to do.