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Yeah I'm talking about her in the 2007/8/9 time period. Just that a progressive or even vaguely left win element in electoral hadn't manifested politically. Those ideas and political power were 100% outside power at the time. So its a bit anachronistic to use the term progressive because in the 2008 time period when this was said we really didn't neccessarily use that word. At the time might use the term "anti-war" for the same basket of policies. That period was also just after the peak of the neo-cons where the litmus test among Democrats was being "anti-war", and obviously, Hillary failed that.