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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Americans are sick of war, all he had to do was wave that carrot and he duped a LOT of voters.

When will voters learn? Look at their past performance and don't listen to anything they say. They are always full of shit.

  • Reagan~ I'm gonna close the border!
  • Bush~ Read my lips, no new taxes!
  • Clinton~ Universal healthcare!
  • Bush~ We're gonna lock up social security and and reform healthcare!
  • Obama~ Universal healthcare!
  • Trump~ I'm gonna build a big wall!
  • Biden~ Universal healthcare!
  • Trump~ I'm never going to war!

p.s. yes, I know, bOtH pArTiEs, I'm a Russian spy, etc.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I'd never vote for trump. Ever. Under any circumstances. I did not vote for trump. Ever. I cannot stand his existence. To quote Tommy Lee Jones:

"I cannot sanction your baffoonary"

Unfortunately he was talking about Jim Carry, and not trump, but I stand behind that quote when talking about trump.

That being said, you say to judge politicians by their past behavior. In his first campaign, he said he was going to build a big wall. Which he did. Nevermind the fact that part of that wall already existed and has been being added to since the 1980s, but he did contract the continuation of that wall.

The problem is, he used cheap labor. He installed pillars to consist of the wall, and these pillars were hollow. They were easily pushed over using one hand, and at the end of the day, everything he built was easily demolished. But he DID have it built.

As far as war goes, I can remember saying in 2024 before the election, that I was unclear if Harris would or would not start a war. Whereas with trump, for all the bullshit he says and does, he's not particularly war minded. In 2024, itdidn't seem like war interested him.

Now I know today in 2026, that statement is very wrong. But at the time of the election it would have been hard to push the idea that trump is a war monger. Nothing he had previously done at that time would suggest war. I would have believed he'd bomb a country repeatedly, but everything we're seeing now, I would have not predicted.

All that being said, the point of this reply isn't pro-trump. It's simply meant to straighten out facts.

Also, Obama absolutely tried to bring universal healthcare. That was the original idea behind Obamacare.

Blame the republicans on that one. They vetod every single decent idea in the original bill.