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[a sign reads FEMINIST CONFERENCE next to a closed door, a blue character shrugs and says…]
I don't care

[next to the same door, the sign now says RESTRICTED FEMINIST CONFERENCE WOMEN ONLY, there are now four blue characters desperately banging on the door, one is reduced to tears on the floor, they are shouting]
DISCRIMINATION
SO UNFAIR!!!!
LET US IINN!!
MISANDRY

https://thebad.website/comic/until_it_affects_me

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[–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it not more about dicussing their problem, in a space they created for it? Black Lifes Matter is a good example of this. Black people want to discuss their issues, and suddenly all lives matter and what about this and that group?

This is not saying that other problem does not exists or are any less real or problematic, but instead they someone should be able to talk about their perceived problem without being forced to include someone else's problem. Those people with those other problems are just as welcome to have their own discussions.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not quite. Black Lives Matter wasn't excluding any supporters based on skin color, last I checked. There might have been a small subset who had some twisted racial theories but, for the most part, it was just people looking to fight racism in the police and happy to accept attendants of any color as long as they were aligned with that main goal. While it would be reasonable to not allow people who wanted to come into a meeting and either digress by focusing on the climate effects of police cruisers, or disrupt by trying to refocus the group around how the police treat some other ethnic group, if BLM had said 'no whites allowed,' I think it would have been far less effective, far more divisive, and ultimately promoted racism.

That's why it seems counterproductive to exclude men. From an idealist view, if you believe being a man has some effect that means you can't have something relevant to add to a conversation, or perhaps more importantly, can't learn from hearing the words of others, that's already sex essentialism, the thing feminists have been fighting for longer than feminist has been a word. And from a pragmatic view, the ones who MOST need to learn about the problems of sexism are the men who are so often blind to it as the beneficiaries of it. If you kick out the mysogynists, you have no mysogynists. If you kick out the men, you leave the men who could be allies standing outside with the mysogynists, who will be only too happy to tell them all about how men and women 'should' be.

I'll admit that I only know BLM from first hand experience (not a lot) and the news, so I should not speak on the movement as a whole. But I wanted to use it to illustrate my point.

if you believe being a man has some effect that means you can’t have something relevant to add to a conversation

I would not say that this is the problem. More in the lines of whataboutism?
You want to discuss something and other people (often men in the case of feminism, again, in my experience), tries to whataboutism their counterpart (for example a femenist) to make their counterparts arguments invalid in some way.


Back to OP's comic, here is a real world example: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46622772. Emma Knyckare (a Swedish comedian) organized a festival that was "male-free".

The Sweden's Discrimination Ombudsman (DO) said that describing an event as "male-free" breached the country's anti-discrimination laws.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In above comic it's not the whole movement of feminism being closed to men, it's only one conference.

And let's be honest, the men that get upset by a women only conference are exactly the men you didn't want there in the first place to talk about feminism.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

This kind of signs create the picture of men associated with something bad. Next time try to pick words for such signs with more respect