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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45996578

Democratic members of Congress know they have an age problem—and it’s hurting them.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

C'mon team, if you're like 72, get the heck out of there and let new people try.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wrote this 3 years ago, just as true today as then:

https://old.reddit.com/r/DownWithIncumbency/comments/uxgcrp/we_should_not_serve_the_dead/

U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein was born in 1933, assumed her office in 1992, and still serves today at the age of 88. Thank you for your service Dianne, but don't you think it's past time to groom a younger protege to take your place?

The laws shaped and passed by our statesmen, elder and otherwise, will control how people live for decades to come. Not only should they be of sound mind when crafting and considering these laws, they should also have a bit of skin in the game: live with the results of their decisions for at least some time.

U.S. Presidents must be at least 35 years of age. I propose that, ideally, they should also not be much over 70 years of age while serving. To gently shape our current system toward this ideal, we might modify election laws to deduct age points from candidates who will be over this age threshold while serving. For instance:

For every year in which the candidate would be over the age threshold while serving their term, one electoral point is deducted from their total for each year of age they will be over the threshold.

If the ultimate age threshold is 70, and a presidential candidate will be 66 years of age or younger when sworn in for a four year term, then that candidate will receive all electoral points the same as they do today. But, if they are 67, and their elected term runs at least 6 months past their 70th birthday, then one electoral point is deducted from their total when deciding the election outcome for that period of "age over threshold" during their term. If they are 68, then there would be one point deducted for the third year of their term and two points deducted for the fourth, a total of 3 points off. If they would be 80 when assuming office then that would be 10+11+12+13=46 electoral points deducted, making victory difficult, but not impossible.

If an older candidate truly is the better choice and will win by such a wide margin, then let the people choose them to continue to serve. But their advantages need to be clear over a younger candidate.

To avoid disruption to the current system and fields of candidates, the age threshold could be "soft started" at 90 and reduced by one year per year until it reaches 70. So, if this system of old age disadvantage were started in the year 2025, it would not reach its final age of 70 until 2045.

Senators and members of the House of Representatives could face similar age disadvantages, granting 0.25% of the popular vote per year of age that would be served over the threshold age. If an 88 year old senator runs for re-election against an age threshold of 70, they would be granting their opponent an (18+19+20+21+22+23)*0.25 = 30.75% advantage in the election, in other words they would need to win more than 80.75% of the popular vote in order to be elected against a candidate 64 years of age or younger.

We've got the wisdom of the elders in the Supreme Court, keep the new laws relevant to the people who they will be impacting.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

the gop also had one of thier own old farts vote in congress, i believe she had dementia and was living in a nursing home at the time when a critical bill was being passed. and feinstien got shingles which caused encephalitis causing her to rapidly deteriorate.

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah like 64 is an age when you still have some umph and you're not totally old.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

That might be true, but as someone less than half that age I sure as fuck do not want a 64 year old representing me in Congress.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You're telling me I'll still have some umph when I'm 64 - that you'll still need me, that you'll still feed me?

Hard to believe from here in the run-up to it, seems like I'm picking up speed on the back side of the hill...

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My dad was Just fine until his 70's.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 18 hours ago

My dad is pushing 80 and still doing o.k. - not super great, but I hope to be doing as well when I get there.

My mom's dad was on all kinds of blood pressure meds, and they mentally aged him prematurely - after a decade of the slowly gathering fog they changed up the meds and it was literally like they reset his mind to what it was 10 years earlier.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Committee assignments are granted by seniority, so it's advantageous to have legislators with a lot of seniority.

In the Senate, West Virginia had Robert Byrd for basically forever


he was the longest-serving senator in American history, died in office


and so he got to lead the Appropriations Committee, which gets to direct money places, which is a pretty desirable spot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

Robert Carlyle Byrd (born Cornelius Calvin Sale Jr.; November 20, 1917 – June 28, 2010) was an American politician who served as a United States senator from West Virginia for over 51 years, from 1959 until his death in 2010. A Democrat, Byrd also served as a U.S. representative for six years, from 1953 until 1959. He remains the longest-serving U.S. senator in history; he was the longest-serving member in the history of the United States Congress[1][2][3][4] until surpassed by Representative John Dingell of Michigan.

Byrd became West Virginia’s Senior Senator in 1985 following the retirement of Jennings Randolph. He served three different tenures as chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Appropriations, which enabled Byrd to steer a great deal of federal money toward projects in West Virginia.[9] Critics derided his efforts as pork barrel spending,[10] while Byrd argued that the many federal projects he worked to bring to West Virginia represented progress for the people of his state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seniority_in_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

Committee leadership in the House is often associated with seniority, especially in the Democratic Caucus. The Republican leadership, in comparison with the Democratic Party, prioritizes voting records and campaign fundraising over seniority for committee leadership.[2] Party leadership in the House is not strictly associated with seniority.

The more senior a representative is, the more likely the representative is to receive desirable committee assignments or leadership posts.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 18 hours ago

Committee assignments are granted by seniority, so

that needs to change. Maybe cap the senority advantage at 10 years, or 5? Draw god-damned straws before giving the gavel to the most senile.

[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Wonderfully articulate description of another aspect of us meta-policy that needs reformation