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After trying out Cosmos Cloud (and it not working for the clients), I'm back at square one again. I was going to install Docker Desktop, but I see it warns that it runs on a VM. Will this be a problem when trying to remote connect to certain services, like Mealie or Jellyfin?

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[–] anonfopyapper@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No its not.

While podman fully OCI image compliant, the network stack of it is different. And podman runsias user, not as root.

Not to mention that podman is a CLI, but OP asked for GUI

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Hezaethos@piefed.zip 10 points 2 months ago

Ok, this is interesting 🙂 they also have a learning center thing it says, so maybe I can take the classes/lessons/tutorials they mention.

I just really hope I then figure out the remote connection stuff. That's the one I'm most paranoid about and wanting to figure out

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's interesting. I didn't know Podman had a Windows environment desktop app.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Also works good in macos. Been using it instead of the lima/colima stack for a few weeks now.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

Tbf Idk how well it works on windows, but on Linux and Mac I have had no problems with it.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

And podman runsias user, not as root.

Both Podman and Docker have rootfull and rootless options

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ive recently replaced my docker setup on Linux with podman and as was said this isn't entirely true. Running as user is actually a good thing but Podman machine allows root like you're probably used to and the docker compatibility seems pretty good.

The networking seems a bit less stable with like wifi network changes and stuff but its definitely something to keep an eye on and give a shot as a more open alternative.

[–] anonfopyapper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't have much experience with podman in production. I use podman to spin up some web tools locally on Linux computer startup (so I have my own searxng only for me). It is a great tool.if you need to spin up something in user space, and because of that, it actually consumes slightly less RAM in general.

About the docker: I never used it as rootless. I'm not sure, but documentation probably said that it is partially or not fully supported or lacks some features or something like that. Anyways, I just run it as root, just because everyone is using it (by everyone, I mean stinky enterprise nerds that do their silly .sh scripts only for docker).

I had some troubles with networking and volume mounts in podman BTW, mostly permissions issues. I guess it makes sense, when a container, tries to create a root file on a rootless podman host and fails.

Though docker is not really fully open source AFAIK. Maybe its source-available, but I remember some bullshit about it.