Asklemmy

So they aren't National Socialists. I doubt t most people actually even know want a National Socialists actually even follows in policy outside memes.

Just a label that gets throw around just to antagonize anyone who disagrees with them. No wonder the term seems to be getting watered down. I see people calling everyone right of them a Nazi, these days.

Nationalism on its own is not a Nazi only trait. Everyone who knows history know that is vague. North Korea, China and The Soviet Union/Russia today are highly and extremely Nationalistic, are they National Socialists? In top of this, I do not know if you have travelled but Chinese people are among the most racist people I ever met. Remember when Disney has to hide Flynn's picture from the Star Wars posters or when they covered the face of Black Panther from their posters too?

Facism comes straight out of Marxism. Literally the father of Facism Giovanni Gentile defined it as Marxism + Nationalism. Where people are white canvases and the State gets to turn them into National Socialists via school and indoctrination. The only differences between National Socialists and "International Socialists" aka: Socialists, is that regard is the Socialists/Communists in practice want to seize the means of production while the NS want to not own it, but to dominate it via policy to the point that they're essentially one and the same. There is a lot of other overlaping things, too.

If we were to take that last point then the USA has been slowly leaning into Facism for the last quarter of acentury at least, moving forth regardless if the president was on the Left or the Right. So both sides are ever closer to Facism. If we are objective.