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It's reading less like you're curious and more like you're looking for an opportunity to "soap-box". You keep asking for sources when @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world provided links yet you're still feigning ignorance of context asking for more sources.
I'm neither side atm, letting the dust settle and seeing if anything comes of it. What's particularly weird is accounts like yours or others like @TrickDacy@lemmy.world and @SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca who are hitting up every single post with their outrage about anyone considering conspiracy. It's just literally internet gossip about a failed assassination while pointing out all the events in these posts, yet you guys are twisting it as some moral perversion and are hellbent on trying to discredit anyone with an opinion on the matter.
Why do you think this?
Why is this a bad thing? I'm asking for sources so I can look into it myself and gather more information. This is exactly the sort of behaviour you would expect from someone who is curious, so I don't understand why you're doubting my curiosity. And wouldn't a lot of people providing a lot of sources make your case for a conspiracy stronger? I really don't understand why you're taking issue with this.
Again, your actions show a disingenuous attitude by selectively quoting a partial sentence,
Throw in some MAGA rhetoric comment painting anyone involved not in your favor as republican, asking if I believe it's a "proven fact" the assassination was faked as some kinda gotcha when I've already stated "I'm neither side".
Here's the timeline as I saw it: 8:48am, asking for "shot's fired" source. after, "is it possible that it’s AI?". 9:48am, you get randomidiots source links. 1:13pm, "I can’t seem to find the source for this." (was already given by randomidiot) 1:21pm, your longest rant about "objective truth".
Either you're not checking sources and demanding for more, completely dense and misreading/illiterate, or some type of combination with the blatant twisting and lack of an actual response besides "Thanks" when someone has proven a fact or event took place with sources.
You've also completely moved the goalpost from your original question that is your title, "Why are people speculating that the most recent Trump assassination attempt was fake?" Now, you need "strong evidence" for something people were just originally pondering on for any discussion to be valid. All while selecting the two weakest links as examples, quietly dismissing all the other points that were made. In case you're still wondering why people are "speculating", here's some vids to digest since it seems you're not interested in reading articles linked to you.
Breaking Points - Conspiracy Theories ERUPT After WHCD Shooting
The Majority Report - Why Was Trump's Security So Bad For WHCD?
The Humanist Report - The Unintentionally Hilarious Aftermath of the WHCD Shooting
Secular Talk - FALSE FLAG??: WHCD Shooting Makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!
Daily Show - Trump Spins Dinner Shooting for Ballroom Agenda
MeidasTouch - Trump Raises RED FLAGS on Shooting after GHOST WRITING MOTION?!!
Congrats though, you seem to be on the same playbook with the White House administration.
Jesus Christ man this is schizo shit. Calm down. This post has 265 comments. I was inundated with stuff in my inbox. I wasn't able to keep track of every link anyone ever sent me, and I couldn't read every response immediately either
lol predictable
I'm on your side man, but this is one of the tactics trolls/propaganda bots use. It's called sealioning if I remember right. The idea is to shut down discussion by shifting the burden to the other side asking for "sources" while contributing nothing to the discussion. Real easy to ask for sources, harder to provide and explain them.
It sucks that this is where we are.
I'm the one who made this post. As of right now it has 159 upvotes and 166 comments. Does that sound like shutting down discussion to you?
Shouldn't the burden be on the people who are proposing a conspiracy? Regardless, it doesn't even make sense to talk about a "burden" here (as if asking for a link is that much of a burden). Not everyone is trying to prove a point when asking for a source. Sometimes people just want to look into things further.
Thanks. I know you're not accusing me of anything but I still felt the need to respond
Agree with you here. It's wild that asking for sources is seen as shutting a discussion down. It's literally opening the discussion wider - unless the other side wants to take it as some kind of attack.
Was it a bad idea for there to be mass defederation of the MAGA instance? Not asking because I support that viewpoint (like most Canadians I am very anti-MAGA) but I wonder if it would have reduced the echo-chamber effects you’re describing
What's weird is getting pushback when saying "this is unproven". No one said anything about moral perversion, we're rightly concerned that "the left" is gullible enough to jump on a bandwagon and within a couple hours people are acting sure that this was a staged event. This is right wing wacko behavior. It's not a moral issue, it's a mental stability issue (or intelligence issue maybe?).
Now, I don't know why you tagged people here other than to stir up some shit. Maybe don't do that?
Don't use a Lemmy feature to add context to my comment? I specifically tagged and addressed you directly instead of getting into your myriad of arguments across multiple posts.
What people are posting and linking isn't "unproven". They're factual events that took place and their opinion on the matter which you seem to have a problem with both.
Do you think the assassination being faked is proven fact? I think even most people who think it was faked wouldn't go this far
I'm not surprised they didn't answer. These people haven't thought anything they're believing right now through, and it's honestly eye opening. The number of people on the left who are wack jobs is quite a lot higher than I realized a couple of days ago.
This reads like a spoiled child or an adult looking for immediate validation online. Not all of us want/need to be terminally on Lemmy like you've chosen for yourself, others have hobbies, responsibilities, and interests outside of the fediverse. Even having near 1k comments myself makes me cringe thinking about all the time I could've been doing something else. Everyone doesn't need to hear every thought vomited out in a comment, nor would this space miss one less person who adds nothing to the conversation but hostility like your mod report shows with so many bans.
And this reads like you have a strong false sense of superiority. No one cares how you perceive their use of the internet.
Also - I am totally shocked you continued to avoid the question but replied here with nothing but judgement. Absolutely shocked! It totally is not related to the fact that you know it's idiotic to be sure that this conspiracy theory is "proven".
nah, you just have an abysmal reading comprehension and can't understand the original comment
I'll go really slow for you.... the facts.... that people are speculating with.... have been shown with sources. Some opinions.... are that it looks suspicious.... and wouldn't be surprised.... if the administration performed a false flag.
Have a good one man, not worth continuing to communicate with someone that plenty of others have given up on.
They asked if you believed it was proven and you intentionally ignored them. But yeah it's that I'm too stupid to read.
Re-reading your comments, I see now that you're not just spreading conspiracy theories on the internet, you're actively being toxic on purpose. Otherwise you would've answered the other person's question instead of spending your precious time here trying to make me feel bad. So you're now blocked, don't bother with more shame-whining.
A sad consequence of them retreating to spaces like Lemmy and Bluesky and cocooning themselves from any dissenting opinion.
You specifically summoned people here to argue with. No one believes that you took the time to @ us because that somehow was helpful to anyone unless they too were looking to argue.