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And, a recent tour of one of the Asian powerhouse's vehicle plants has proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to Honda President and CEO Toshihiro Mibe.

"We have no chance against this," Mibe said upon a visit to a Shanghai parts factory, commenting on its seamless automation across all levels of production. Logistics, procurement and all aspects of the process were so automated, in fact, that he did not spot a single human worker on the supplier's floor.

Ford executives saying even three years ago that China was way ahead of the game

Toyota's CEO has likewise said regarding not just his company, but the industry in general, "unless things change, we will not survive"

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Back in the 80s, American cars got really, really crappy, and that's when Honda, and Toyota, and later Hyundai, Daiwoo, and Kia were able to get market share. American car companies got their shit together, and started making cars that could compete again. So here we are a few decades later, in the same spot.

These scummy Capitalists get a taste of luxury, and they start getting lazy, while the Asians continue to crank away like they're in last place. In the past, the Capitalists finally wised up, and got back into the game, but the current crop are so breath-takingly ignorant, that I doubt they could even recognize that they're in trouble. If someone were to try to explain it to them, they'd probably just attack back.

The Japanese and Koreans will get their shit together. America won't.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"we've built a model based on charging an assload of money for features that barely work and China is making cheap cars that do the job better. Because, you know, the cheap bullshit we've been building. If you force us to compete again we'll lose!"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, but have you considered that the Chinese Communist Party is ontologically evil? And therefore any amount of business (direct retail sale to consumers that sidesteps US rent-seekers) is in support of a genocidal regime of highly corrupt madmen who want to destroy liberty and justice across the entire planet?

We need to STOP CHINA NOW before they take over the damned world and ruin everything sweet and honest and pure that our glorious nation has created.

[–] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 days ago

You got me in the first half. Ngl.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Weren't some auto companies bailed out before? Why wouldn't they expect the same thing again? Just get bailed out by the government again if things get bad enough.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They know they are in trouble but they think it’s because labor is lazy and needs more exploiting.

Part of getting Americas shit together is closing off immigration. The people doing this to us are mostly not American. It’s rich immigrants from various countries exploiting regular Americans. Thiel isn’t ours. Musk isn’t ours. Fucking murdoch… Why the fuck do they all move here? At some point it feels like an attack from other nations. From our own Allies. Who fucking needs enemies?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Immigration is the one of the primary economic engines in America, and it is a STUPID self-inflicted injury to close it off.

Those "immigrants" you mentioned aren't a problem because they're immigrants. They're a problem because A)They are Sociopathic Oligarchs, and B) Our elected officials have allowed them to exploit our labor and resources for their own benefit, at the expense of our own citizens.

We shouldn't cut off immigrants, who are coming here to contribute to America, we need to cut off Sociopathic Oligarchs who come here to abuse America. We need to make our government, and the wealthy, understand that we don't exist to serve them, they exist to serve the Citizens, and this nation. They are allowed to keep their profits, after paying for the privilege through significant taxes, through the pleasure of the Citizens.

They can buy whatever they need out of their own pockets. We shouldn't be giving their corporations tax breaks and loopholes, we shouldn't be buying them stadiums, giving them enormous government grants, etc.They can afford to pay their own way. Not one [now illegal] penny should be spent on Sociopathic Oligarch toys.

Our tax money is for our citizens, and if Oligarchs can't understand that, then they don't understand their responsibilities to the country that has made them wealthy, and their fortunes will be confiscated, their corporations nationalized and operated for the enrichment of the American people, and they will be imprisoned. Their families will be left destitute, to start over.

That's how you stop Sociopathic Oligarchs - by going after THEM, not some poor immigrant family that just wants to pick enough berries to buy food for the day.