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The older I get the more I tend to favor anarchy. It seems preferable to the current system.
i mean, the older i get the better i understand anarchy so yeah.
as an aside, i think we would all be well served to give at least a cursory study to the different schools of thought around politics. not to believe them or anything, just sometimes the anarchists have the most effective, concise lingo for mutual aid. sometimes the statesian republicans might have the best lingo for gerrymandering. the demsocs probably have the best lingo for the third thing [i haven't had coffee yet give me a break], just like maga has the best lingo for jamming your own head up your own ass.
of course that makes agreeing on terms before a discussion hard as hell, but once you do you can have really productive (and fun!) discussions
Been practicing consensus for yrs. If done right, it is far better than our current decision makimg prpcesses
Imagine a world where the rich and the ones who seek power have completely unchecked ability to buy out, crush, and take control of any industry they want. No more worrying about health codes or what pesticides are used. No safety regulations. No fire police and EMS services....
That’s not what anarchy means.
No. It's exactly what it means. There would be no government oversight for safety or regulation. No ability to prevent or slow concentrations of power, and no entity to prevent the rich and powerful from overtaking any markets. Anarchy is an extreme lack of government size and oversight.
Anarchy is also the abolition of property and profit incentives.
Which flat out will not work. There's nothing in place that can prevent it.
If organizing has gotten to the point where an anarchist revolution has happened, then enough of that spirit will be left so that the people are brave enough to stop those who try to create property again out of nothing. Anarchy is governance by society and social pressure instead of government force.
If an anarchist revolution did happend, a sub-group of people would form a government and murder/enslave the people who don't.
assuming they can fight off the revolutionaries who just overthrew the much bigger government, that is
That's the breeding ground for violence and power. Some people will always want more and that's a simple recipe to cause violence to make it happen.
There's a lot of anarchist theory and practice. Some implementations have means against that kind of stuff. It's not like nobody ever thought about it.
I'm not saying no one ever thought about it. I'm saying there's a reason it isn't a used form of government anywhere. It's absurd
It is though.
Edit: https://anarwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Anarchist_Societies
Yeah..... Did you really check over the wiki? Lol.
A handful of very, very small places. I clicked one of the links (Rojava) and it said they weren't even anarchists. It was a society based around democratic confederalism.
You could make anarchy work when there like 500 people and you walk the ones who don't play nice 5 miles down the goat path and "kick them out" and your on 500 acres of land y'all own from a real country that you're a part of. Using money. It's stupid and naive to think it can be done on a country wide scale, or anything remotely close to it in this day and age.
You can only gain power if you manage to take it from others, who won't just bolt away and surrender their agency. Instead, for the hungry you say, authority should be enough for such self-actualization. The difference to power is that instead of forceful mandates, authority is enabled by well-earned community trust, which is far more gratifying (and revocable).
That's like democracy, and you can see where it led. It's just a fast track to the corruption we have in the US now.
could you explain how this would lead to corruption? and at the least, it's better than electoralism, which is US democracy
All right, let's go. Let's say the entire damned country is now anarchists.
Where do you get your transportation?
Military?
Road repairs?
Education?
How is it decided that someone has too
much, and what do you do with them?
Are you going to have enough people becoming skilled nurses and doctors if they aren't compensated for it, or are they allowed more stuff than you?
What are the numbers for the people in the country, percentage wise that don't want to be in an anarchist society? What happens if they start selling drugs and cutting people in and more people start to enjoy getting to have more stuff than others? They start buying votes with favors?
Who is going to be the decision makers of any large scale projects that need done? Are you going to have society vote on how to build a sewage system, or is it going to be one person who has designed them before making the decisions and being in charge?
What happens when China or Russia or Canada or whoever else just come over and invade? Gonna barter in a military by trading for corn?
It’s being against unethical hierarchies. So not what you said, like, at all.
And how is that supposed to happen? A kumbeya moment where all the billionaires hold hands with everyone else and divest away all the shit they have?
We kill them and take their money. Ezpz
So... We just like waiting for the exact right moment?
https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionI.html#seci58
Ya because you are old enough to have experienced what you wanted to experience and have enough supplies to probably do fine if society collapses.
I would know, I'm an old man who is thinking the exact same thing. Just restocked on gas filters and MREs.
Just take care not to mistake rugged individualism for anarchism!
No,no,no you see years of propaganda have conflated the word anarchy with chaos therefore it must mean that!
I don't care that I have unlimited access to the world's information at the push of a few buttons that clearly show anarchism to be a broad political movement with mutual aid and cooperation at its core. I have preconceived notions that I must uphold!
YOU ARE NOT MY SUPERVISOR
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