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I did some analysis of the modlog and found this:

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Ok, bigger instances ban more often. Not surprising, because they have more communities and more users and more trouble. But hang on, dbzer0 isn't a very big instance. What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?

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Ok, so lemmy.ml, dbzer0 and pawb are issue an outsized amount of bans for the number of users they have... But surely the number of communities the instance hosts is going to mean they have to ban more? Bans are used to moderate communities, not just to shield their user-base from the outside. Let's look at the number of bans per community hosted:

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Seems like dbzer0 really loves to ban. Even more than the marxists and the furries! What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?

Raw-ish numbers and calculations are in this spreadsheet if anyone wants to make their own charts.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reading the comments I am wondering because a user from dbzer0 mentions problems with anti ai trolls and pawb I imagine has anti furry trolls. I also personally know of users that have a thing in their craw about .ml (cm0002 in particular whos alts make up a majority of my user block list).

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (10 children)

dbzer0 mentions problems with anti ai trolls

Is dbzer0 pro AI?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 46 points 1 week ago

Dbzer0 itself is very pro-AI. Or at least it has a lot of pro-AI communities.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, generating images with AI is in their instance description. They think computers doing our art for us is "anarchist".

[–] alzjim@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (86 children)

Aren’t you that person who thinks AI is “enslavement”?

[–] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They also think AI are not compatible with veganism.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Both of those positions are reasonable and tame compared to the majority of Their beliefs.

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[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

They think computers doing our art for us is “anarchist”.

They are not completely wrong though. It's a ceter piece of anarcho-capitalism.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

It’s not anti-AI, users who wish to host AI comms are allowed to and are empowered to protect them from harassment.

There has been a history of fake accounts and doxxing on moderators of the AI comms. So they take personal safety seriously.

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, you can get banned by simply downvoting slop.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

No, you get banned for going into a community and downvoting for everything in it instead of avoiding it and blocking it.

Lies from .world yet again.

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the anti-genai trolls never let up, unfortunately. they must have dedicated months of their lives spinning up new sock-puppet troll accounts to bully, harass, and threaten one of our mods on an almost daily basis. because bullying zir off the internet is a great win for the fight against evil AI, right? yep, such effective activism, telling someone to kill themselves repeatedly simply for the "sin" of liking foss genai.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I looked into this a while ago and it's a concerning pattern. Every single time someone makes a post on YPTB about one particular dbzer0 mod, it seems as if they then go on to make ten alt accounts to harass him with transphobia. Lots of different accounts with a prior history, just pivoting to transphobic harassment right after they express a problem with his moderation. I gotta tell you, whoever is attacking that mod is fucking up if their intent is to hurt him, because he gets tons of sympathy and good PR about the whole thing. Lots of people go from being neutral to being on his side, because everyone who criticizes him suddenly turns out to be a transphobe. It's really strange.

[–] alzjim@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel like saying “him” and “he” might be misgendering zir.

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[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

pawb I imagine has anti furry trolls

Maybe, but they’re also ban happy. The only ban I’ve gotten in almost 3 years of being on Lemmy is from pawb.social for, allegedly, being “a troll.” I’ve never commented anything disparaging about furries, and I’ve never commented or even voted on a pawb community.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

yeah I don't know. I was just pointing out that all three have basically hater types. In this situation individuals or groups can become a bit reactionary so your experiences may be valid as well. Personally I don't think communities or instances need to be open and as a matter of fact there is a thing to get private communities a thing in the fediverse. I personally don't care to much about bans I just would like things to be symetrical and I would love as much as possible to be at the user level. So I wish instances and communities would defederate/block/ban as little as possible and give users the greatest possible ability to do this and for everything to be symetric. You don't want me I don't want you. I block you I don't want you to see my stuff no mo.