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I did some analysis of the modlog and found this:

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Ok, bigger instances ban more often. Not surprising, because they have more communities and more users and more trouble. But hang on, dbzer0 isn't a very big instance. What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?

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Ok, so lemmy.ml, dbzer0 and pawb are issue an outsized amount of bans for the number of users they have... But surely the number of communities the instance hosts is going to mean they have to ban more? Bans are used to moderate communities, not just to shield their user-base from the outside. Let's look at the number of bans per community hosted:

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Seems like dbzer0 really loves to ban. Even more than the marxists and the furries! What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?

Raw-ish numbers and calculations are in this spreadsheet if anyone wants to make their own charts.

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[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So, yes you banned a community moderated by multiple users because you personally felt slighted at being banned by one person.

Thanks for the explanation.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm looking at the modlog right now and there's about 30 bans coming from one mod on that community, that all say "s". That's the reason for those 30 bans, "s". The letter S. That one person handed out 30 bans for the letter S.

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&modId=14007283

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Its like some admins have zero concept of consensus or community-based decision making. They just wanna play server daddy, and daddy always knows best. 😂

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

without further explanation, looking at the mod's modlog posted above makes me inclined to go ask PTB...

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I opened this thread last week: https://lazysoci.al/post/46564840

Based on the modlog, the mod hasn't revised their judgement

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -3 points 1 week ago

I've seen dbzer0's democracy in action, and it left a lot to be desired. The users only hear one side speak before they vote, they don't hear any counterargument until after they've made their decision.

[–] rimu@piefed.social -3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I spent 8 years in organisations that operated with consensus-based decision making. IRL, not larping online.

You don't know me. Even a little bit.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok so you know about consensus-based decisionmaking but refuse to implement it. You understand that's worse right?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They don't understand anything that wasn't hard coded into their mind like PieFed.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's incorrect, there were several discussions with the community on the Piefed Matrix regarding those settings, which is why they became opt out by default and optional.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

It shouldn't exist in the first place.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And yet you don't see an issue with the way this was handled?

So, yes you banned a community moderated by multiple users because you personally felt slighted at being banned by one person.

I don't need to know you, I just observe what actions you take. You went off half cocked in this post like it was some sort of gotcha.

Also not sure why you suddenly have it in for our instance recently. It seems like you've thrown in your hat with Kaplan who is seemingly determined to get rid of the last remaining leftist instances. That's extremely disappointing.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And yet you don’t see an issue with the way this was handled?

They never will.

Also not sure why you suddenly have it in for our instance recently.

Always has, we don't support liberal capitalism. That's worse than the fascists they hang out with, while claiming they fight fascism.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also not sure why you suddenly have it in for our instance recently.

Being labelled as a Zionist is probably the reason.

When this was discussed last week with db0, db0 said to just move on as people tend to call everyone a lot of things on the Internet.

On the other hand, it could also be expected than instance admins take actions against this type of disinformation. Dbzer0 staff prefers not too for ideological reasons, but that's the core of the disagreement: should instance admins allow mods to spread disinformation in modlogs?

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Rimu wants us to reverse a misguided community ban by a community mod I'd be happy to do so. But he hasn't even asked afaik. We are actually quite reasonable people, despite claims to the contrary.

I don't have any particular beef with Rimu except for the current hostility towards our admin team. And hit jobs like this post are not helpful.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Rimu is also on mwog and happy to listen to goat and pugjeasus there.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Yikes, nothing honest ever came out of that community.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

So Rimu is a Nazi AnCap? How gross can this guy get.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s why you made the choice to code in your biases into PieFed without reaching a consensus with anyone first.

You must love how the top communities on .social are all meme communities.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's incorrect, there were several discussions with the community on the Piefed Matrix regarding those settings, which is why they became opt out by default and optional.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Not all of them are.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don’t know me. Even a little bit.

Your actions are louder than your words. Your continued bad faith and constant siding with other bad faith actors are bigger than your empty platitudes and statements.

Your personality is reflected in your actions. You're a digital dictator.

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You were literally using the community as an attack vector against users

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was not. Another mod banned Rimu. Rimu could have just as easily banned that single user instead of deleting entire communities.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com has returned to piefed.social after we confirmed that the moderator in questions mod-logs would not continue to federate out.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

After removing all subscriptions, deleting all votes, you've handed back an empty husk because Rimu's fragile ego was bruised. Cheers! Great leadership on display at PieFed.social lately.