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[–] riskable@programming.dev 137 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I browse "All" most of the time and the Femcel Memes show up pretty regularly. It's not like this gif though. It's more like watching a super interesting science experiment.

"Ah, yes. I see. I see. How interesting!"

My scientific notes so far:

  • They crave cuddles. It's almost like a cuddle-based economy.
[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They crave cuddles.

Who among us cannot say the same?

Straight men lol, idk i just never want to cuddle, some foreplay of course, but like outside of sex i really dont get any positive feelings from cuddling, just something i do when my partner wants to for them

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I can! I'm disgusted by other people touching me. I'm more like those shy cats that hide under the furniture if you try to pet them, and only come hang out next to you if you leave them alone

(and yes it's 'tism)

[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You can crave cuddles and be disgusted by other human beings at the same time.

It's called I have a person, and only that person may touch me. And the cat. The cat too.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Understandable, yes! I lack that too though, I just don't like to be touched nor touch others, and I do not desire it either. I do like to pet... or I guess more like poke and pat animals (though there's specific conditions for what type of fur I will tolerate touching), but that's about it. I can hug my dog but that's about the extend of it. I also have problems with my own limbs touching each other or my torso which causes more issues honestly. "Touch starved" is something I simply don't understand lmao

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Until you wrote "I also have problems with my own limbs", I thought your sensitivity could be due to the warmth of other human bodies which some people find hard to deal with, indeed. But if you also have a constant "pins and needles" feeling and cannot even stand your own touch, so to speak, you might want to look into your sodium levels. It changed things a very great deal for me. Well, that and seriously reducing my caffeine intake.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh no it's not "pins and needles" it's just disgust, I have hypersensitivity to touch in general and touching humans is basically just the worst of it for some reason. A bit like you'd step on dog shit or touch something rotting etc. I get the shivers and all that, it's terrible. If I don't get the unpleasant touch to stop quick enough, eventually I go crazy and will struggle like a rabid animal, since it's so intolerable - I know because I've gotten to that point couple times by trying jeans on... I don't know why or how my own limbs can trigger this shit as well, it's just my stupid corpse being shitty I guess. I can't do breathing exercises or mindfulness stuff either, because becoming even more aware of my body makes it so much worse

[–] benderbeerman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just took an NFPA 70E electrical safety course, and the instructor was talking about how electricians love to cuddle.

I thought it was weird for a sec, then I remembered the last time I opened an electrical panel with someone else nearby. Then I remembered every other time I opened an electrical panel with other people nearby. Then I remembered all the times that I was all the other people nearby.

Then he showed us a video of an arc flash with 3 people inside the panel, and then there was nobody nearby.

[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago

Arc flashes are nature’s way of saying cuddle time is over.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Straight guys can't say it. Not because they don't crave them, they just can't say that they do without social sanction. Everyone else apparently gets a pass though.

[–] ScytheDraven47@piefed.zip 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'll say it; I crave cuddles.

Cuddles while watching TV is one of the only things that'll pull me away from my computer.

I definitely crave them.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Another note is that they seem to all be autistic, with many of them exhibiting symptoms of severe depression. Most are also trans lesbians. Many seem to be cat/fox/puppygirls.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Depressed autistic transbians commiserating about loneliness

"Aw cute puppygirls!" head pats

Depessed autistic cis guys commiserating about loneliness

"Ew gross incels, yuck!" social stigma

[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The fact they're mostly trans take the appeal from me.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I mean, you don't have to be attracted to anything you're not attracted to. No one is saying "you have to like puppygirls!"

The point isn't to fetishize femcels. The point is that double-standards are a problem that maybe understandably lead to people feeling left behind by society.

Maybe "incels" have a legitimate reason for feeling discontent after all, and it's not "because women tell them no" like people claim. More like "because people ridicule them for being alone."

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The difference being that the puppygirls aren't lashing out and demeaning others ... they're just bed rotting while watching yaoi

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lots of lonely guys aren't lashing out and demeaning others either, but people don't notice them because they're not lashing out and demeaning others. They still get labeled as incels though, and if they find that hurtful then people will absolutely shred them for it anyway.

Also, they'll be shamed for bed rotting, and shamed for watching yuri. No matter what they do, they'll be shamed for it. So it's honestly not surprising when a number of them end up lashing out.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Are people calling those who don't behave like assholes "incel" though?

And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?

It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, people do call even the ones who aren't being assholes "incels." It's a derogatory term that gets used against anyone who doesn't get laid. Like calling someone a "virgin." It's shitty, and it promotes toxic masculinity. It also objectifies women by implying that men need to "get p***y" in order to be worthy of basic respect.

And I'm tired of hearing this excuse that "it doesn't refer to literal involuntary celibates, it refers to redpilled misogynistic jerks." But that simply isn't true, because people definitely apply it to literal "involuntary celibates" and use it as an insult like calling someone a "virgin." It's childish and immature. Also, there are lots of misogynistic jerks who get laid. Focusing all your ire on "incels" misses the point entirely, lets those people off the hook, and perpetuates the issue by communicating the subtext that "you can be a misogynistic jerk as long as you get laid, and then we'll still respect you." If you can't see how that's toxic and detrimental to society, then I can't help you.

And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?

They're more likely to be fetishized, which is bad in a different way. But it certainly hasn't risen to the level of a cultural pastime like shaming incels has.

It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.

I'm not the one applying a double-standard. I'm pointing out the double-standard.

I never said "femcels should be shamed, and incels shouldn't be."

I said "femcels don't get shamed the same way incels do."

If the former is how you interpret the latter, that's on you. If I need to explicitly state what I meant, it's closer to this:

"Maybe nobody should be shamed for being lonely and having poor social skills, regardless of gender."

If the issue is misogyny, target the misogyny. Not the inability to get sex, because that is going to do nothing to address the misogyny.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

All well said and more articulate than I could pull off, bravo.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

I've had to put a lot of thought into this over the years, because usually anything I say about it gets deflected into a strawman and then I just get called a redpilled incel and suddenly people assume that I'm making demands on women's bodies, when all I'm demanding is the same baseline level of respect that literally everyone else deserves.

So I have to navigate the argument very delicately, or else people assume I meant things that I didn't say.

[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm yes they often are even when they are just complaining that they disdain the situation. I don't know about women though I don't know that many that are bed rotting

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If they can look up Yaoi, bed rot, or even have the energy to complain about men, they are underemployed. I can't even think about sex without realizing I could probably pull it off, but my job would get in the way of it, as with anything. The workplace is our god, everything, even family is secondary, because you can't have family without work.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who has more free time than they spend sleeping is "underemployed" in your opinion?

You sound like a severely sick and twisted individual.

I feel sorry for your family, if you have one.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My family would not be around if I didn't work. They would not have survived. If you can do these things, you are clearly privileged, and could be doing better things with your time.

I will not be sorry, why should someone else make a hissy fit over "boo-hoo no one wants me".

I literally can't even muster the energy to think about that lesser shit, because I'm actually fighting for my life.

While these fuckers parasite around.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

It's a perfectly reasonable expectation to have that people should be able to make a decent living while still having enough free time to spend with family and loved ones; or in the absence of a family, doing whatever one chooses to do in their freetime, up to and including commiserating with others about their loneliness.

If you don't agree with that, then you're not a friend of the proletariat. You're licking oligarch boots if you think everyone else should have to work every minute of their waking life to survive just because you do.

If you really have to work that much, and you think the problem is that not everyone else has to work as much as you do, instead of the problem being that anyone should have to work as much as you claim to, then you're a fucking class traitor and a corporate shill.

I don't give a fuck if you think other people are "lesser shit" or that their problems don't matter. And if that's honestly how you feel, then I don't give a fuck about your problems either, because solidarity isn't a one-way street.

You can call it a "boo-hoo hissy fit" every time someone mentions a problem they face that you don't care about, but don't expect any fucking sympathy when you're the one complaining about your problems, as you're doing now.

Feel free to call people parasites for not living like slaves. That's the rhetoric fascists use, so at least you're taking the mask off.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 27 minutes ago

Why should I not be a fascist if I'm judged only by my immutable characteristics, if the world wants me gone, what incentive do I have not to be the same?

I have been holding back, putting up with bullshit, being kind to people who treat me like dirt because I believed in giving people a chanc. Then they go vote in the Jeffrey Epsteins, and try to exterminate those like me.

You get what you fucking deserve!

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll be nice if you give them a pink monster and tell them they're a good girl.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago

I prefer white monster but yes

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

just wait till you see the cuddle parties in vrchat with full body tracking hehe

(I'm the one with piece signs)

though, unfortunately not with the folks from femcel memes... :(

^cough cough !VRChat@sh.itjust.works cough cough^

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Strange as fuck heh. Also, it's a rich person solution as well.