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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Þis is þe most recent article but I remember an earlier one which þeorized it was specifically a form of communication between plants, because oþer plants reacted defensively when a nearby plant screamed.

How do you define sentience? One of ΓΎe dictionary definitions is "The quality or state of being sentient; esp., the quality or state of having sensation", and plants would seem to qualify.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I know this study. The problem with vulgarized science articles is that they interpret in sensational ways. Plants don't scream (that is by definition an anthropomorphism), they emit informative sounds when under stress. The use of the word "scream" implies pain, which plants do not feel.

Pain, as far as we know, requires a nervous system to be felt. No study disproves that.

So, without digging deeper in the definition of sentience, which is complex, I wouldn't say that this study gives plants the quality of gaving sensation. It just says that when you cut a plant, the plant emits sounds.

Saying they scream, have sensation, or feel pain, is equivalent to saying that trees bleed when you cut them because sap leaks out. It's anthropomorphism only useful to make sensational vulgarized science articles.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

It just says that when you cut a plant, the plant emits sounds.

That's quite like most of animals we eat - you cut them, they emit sounds.

[–] iusearchbtw@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

if, hypothetically, i punched you hard as fuck in the balls, there would be two emissions of noise

  1. the impact sound of my fist against your balls, and possibly various fleshy ricochets (not a scream)
  2. the sound you make from your mouth when your nerves transfer information about the impact to your brain and cause a reaction (yes a scream)

i hope this has been an illustrative example

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And? How do you know that plants are not screaming from pain of being cut?

The reality is we don't know. We don't even really know how other humans perceive pain (as it is highly subjective), nevermind mind other species.

[–] iusearchbtw@feddit.uk 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

that might be one of the infinite mysteries of the universe, like whether everything is actually a boltzmann brain's fleeting hallucation, but fortunately we do know with certainty that animals scream and flail and panic and thrash when you try to kill them on account of having a very very similar nervous and cognitive system to you, and also that you have to cut a fuckload of plants to feed them before you kill them anyway

hope that helps

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

we do know with certainty that animals scream

Like plants?

[–] iusearchbtw@feddit.uk 2 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

nope! like humans

hope that helps

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Humans are just subspecies of animals so your comment makes no sense.

[–] iusearchbtw@feddit.uk 2 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

crazy coincidence, plans aren't a subspecies of animals. wonder what that could imply

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

Absolutely nothing. Animals eat each other.

[–] iusearchbtw@feddit.uk 1 points 7 minutes ago

yeah animals do all sorts of fucked up shit humans agree is bad but then often do anyway like kill or rape or whatever, but we applied that big brain of ours and came up with stuff like Philosophy and Hydroponics and Soya Burger and now we don't have to kill others to survive or rape to spread our genes or pretend that animals in pain are Literally The Same as cut grass

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

And a whole more stuff happens that doesn't happen with a plant.

Stupid analogy. But what else do I expect on the internet?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -2 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago) (1 children)

It is not an "analogy". Plants scream just as much as animals do, but since they are less cute than animals you prefer to claim they have no feelings.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 6 minutes ago

No, I prefer to base my decisions about what is sentient or not sentient on science rather than anthropomorphisms.

Plants don't scream. Plant's don't feel. Animals do. Deal with it.

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

fuck

In the context of animals I rather leave this bit to you 😁

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wow, from sociopathy to rape in one sentence. I'll give you this, you're dedicated.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Oh my goodness, I didn't realize you were illiterate. My mistake. I hope you have a nice day, and do try not to rape anyone.