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How often do people typically get paid where you are? How is the overtime? (Specify location) (piefed.ca)

submitted 14 hours ago by WongKaKui@piefed.ca to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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My parents told me that in China, they get paid once a month. And its a common story where employers refuse to pay their employees, and authorities kinda suck at doing anything about it...

Sometimes they ask you to 试工 (trial work?) for like a day (or whatever period of time they ask you to do), then they just say your performance is bad or whatever excuse, refuse to hire you, then you leave empty handed, and basically did work for free. So when my mom was was looking for work, I heard her ask "so just to make sure: I do get paid for today regardless of if you hire me or not right" (that was here in the US, at a store run by another ethnic Chinese), which is when she warned me about the shenanigans in China...

Anyways:

Here in the US, it's always been weekly pay

I don't think they ever had an issue with employers refusing to pay over here.

In China, my mom told me that sometimes they delay your pay for like a few days to sometimes even almost a month late... like its routine...

that China stuff was before 2010 btw

So about the overtime...

There's no such thing as the 1.5x bonus for time over 40 hours in China...

Sometimes they have performance-based bonus pay.

Like for example: my mom worked in electronics sales (think a sort of "Best Buy" type of thing) and like get commissions for making more sales... that type of stuff...

Afaik, there has always bonus pay for overtime for the employers my parents worked for here in the US. (I mean unless you are talking about those sketchy "under the table stuff" which my parents never did cuz they don't wanna mess the IRS.)

So hows the situation in your country? Is there like routine delayed pay or those shenanigans?

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

In France and Germany you are paid monthly, by bank transfer (for most jobs). Tax are automatically accounted for, your pay slip will show the Brute/Brutto (what the employers pay) and Net/Netto (what you receive on your bank account).

In both countries, trial period must be paid. If you come 1 day to work and they don't want you. They must pay you for the 1 day of work.

In Germany, how good things are can vary. I always had a good situation because I work in the automotive industry. For most my career my contract was "Tarifvertrag" which means it is compliant with the rules of the workers union IG-Metall, this includes the salary grid. The union is negotiating the salary increase for millions of employees on a yearly basis. You stamp in and out of work. Your work time is counted to the minute. Overtime is accumulated in a time account that you can recover as paid holiday or paid at overtime rate. Working Saturdays and Sundays is paid a special rate as well (not sure, I think it is 150% Saturday and 200% Sunday). After trial period, resignation is 10 weeks notice for both the employee and employer. They must pay you all of your overtime when you leave, and let you use all the holidays you are due.

If your profession is covered by a strong workers union, things are pretty good. Things can pretty shitty if you are independent or working for a startup or hospitality business.