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Country with a second amendment refuses to use it.
You first. Unless there's some reason you're keen for others to risk their lives but not your own.
I wasn't talking about asking others to risk their lives without risking your own though, I specifically said 'especially keen', as in eager to sacrifice others for their own enjoyment (or whatever.)
As a way of calling out the hypocrisy of the people who claim to be all gung-ho to stamp out tyranny from behind the barrel of a gun I have no issue with it, but 'why aren't you sacrificing yourself to satisfy my vicarious moral outrage' is a bit fucking rich coming from someone who isn't also lining up to do the same thing. One might even call that a kind of hypocrisy too.
You know what, I think maybe I was a little overzealous in my reading of that person's comment. I just went and reread it and realized there's not a lot there, so I was probably assuming intent or meaning that may or may not have been there. My bad.
You might be shocked to learn that other countries exist and that the internet works in those countries and that your joke of a fucking constitution doesn't apply there.
Hint: I live in such a country.
And you might likewise be shocked to learn that non-Americans don't have a lock on the understanding of how maps work, or that the idea of hurling yourself pointlessly at a professional army/police force is just as unappealing here as it is in any of those countries. It's easy to say 'Someone should do something' when you're not the one who is going to be at risk in the doing, isn't it? But I'm sure wherever you're from is perfect, and even if it's not there's no reason to worry because others will no doubt be lining up to sacrifice themselves to satisfy your vicarious moral outrage so that you don't have to get your own hands dirty.
Or, and hear me out, the country that built itself in part on being prepared to meet tyranny with force is the one who ought to actually meet tyranny with force when the time comes. Other countries, which did not do this, have every right to call out hypocrisy and cowardice for what it is, especially after decades of watching the cowards be cowardly.
And no, my country is far from perfect. Surely you see how irrelevant that is to this discussion.
UPDATE: How nice! You understood me after all. You also assumed some facts not in evidence, but in a discussion such as this, that's likely to happen. I'm not "keen", I'm merely fucking exhausted.
That country doesn't exist anymore, and it hasn't in generations. Anyone who believes otherwise has been drinking a bit too much of the kool-aid. What we have left is a bunch of rednecks who trot out that line about tyranny to justify holding onto their guns, and otherwise a bunch of fat, happy people who have little to no real idea about what's going on at home, much less around the world.
Mind you, as you pointed out in my comment elsewhere, I agree that it's hypocrisy and cowardice, but that doesn't mean I'm okay with expecting people to sacrifice themselves (especially when you're not willing to put yourself on the line too) for some heavily-propagandized patriotic ideal that is pure fabrication at this point. Especially when the reality is that tyranny has been winning here for a long time and most people seem fine with it as long as things aren't too uncomfortable for them (which amounts to: they get to drive their big stupid SUVs and watch football and pretend that they're temporarily-embarrassed millionaires.) The idea of 'rugged individualism' has been drilled into this country's head for at least the last 40 years I've been paying attention to politics, not because it comes from the core of our national identity, but because it divides us and hampers efforts to engender class consciousness.
What I'm trying to do here is thread the needle: yes there is hypocrisy and it should be called out, but, as the rest of the sentence you quoted says, it's also a little bit hypocritical to expect others to do what you aren't here doing too. I understand the frustration non-Americans feel at the direction this country is going and the implications it has for them, and trust me when I say that some of us feel the same way too. But I'm a disabled man in my 50s, I'm more useful on the information/ideas/inspiration side of things than on the front line.
Me too, man, me fuckin' too.
I feel you. Let's be exhausted together. Cheers.
Donald Trump has a First Amendment-protected right to say this. It may be irresponsible or outrageous, but the First Amendment protects irresponsible and outrageous speech.
On the outrageous-things-Donald-Trump-has-done list, this is probably one of the more-clearly-legal things that I can think of.
But on my personal list of "thoughts that make me shit my pants" living in a real-world Handsmaid's tale ranks pretty high, though.
When will you folks understand what your first amendment actually means?
I'm not asking your government to silence him. I'm not asking a court to sentence him. I'm not looking for a police force to arrest him.
If you want to kill a national leader because he does something lawful that you don't personally agree with, go do in someone yourself in your own country, who I suppose would be Ulf Kristersson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
That is, one speaks out against things one objects to, one votes out leaders one objects to, one goes to the judicial system, and only then does one resort to violence.
We've no issue with speaking out against Trump
I've done so many times on here, quite publicly. That has not failed.
Trump's tried to ignore an election that he lost, but the system rejected it. That has not failed.
Trump's been stopped on a number of occasions by judicial rulings. There are certainly a few questionable cases, like trying to find a legal loophole to not reverse deportions that had occurred by trying to get people outside US jurisdiction, there's a long list of Presidents who have looked for legal loopholes; Bush Junior tried a very similar tactic with Guantanamo. That has certainly not reached a point where the judicial system is ineffective.
If all three of those had been rendered inoperative, then and only then would the use of violence against him be warranted.
James Madison, the Founding Father who drafted the Constitution, addressed the subject in Federalist Paper No. 46:
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-10-02-0261
You don't go assassinate someone because he does something that you don't like. You fight someone if they actually break with democracy.
"Let's ignore the constitution." This is fine.
And then:
What kind of break with democracy the motherfuck are you waiting for?
Your country in a nutshell. I wouldn't care if we didn't catch a cold from you sneezing.