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unless you enter .ml environment...
Or hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, hilariouschaos, and [edit: false stuff removed] maga.place.
Lemmy definitely has its dark corners.
lemmytoday isnt conservative, i havnt even noticed one, most of the actual conservatives have largely been defederate long time ago. also they wouldnt survive on a small platform anyways, because of how little interactions they get.
Thank you for correcting me. I edited my comment to indicate that it was maga.place.
I really do not understand all the .ml hate. If you have it so much why are you using their technology (Lemmy)? So much bullshit being reposted as fact. Basically echo chamber brigading. I left Reddit to escape this shit…
Edit: although judging by your post history you lack conviction and joke about everything, so maybe I missed the mark
Oh boy, this isn’t a question you want being asked of people (yourself included).
Really reeks of "if you hate capitalism why do you participate in it?"
I am ver intelligen
That’s why I’m advocating for people to switch to piefed and stop donating to the lemmy project which funds .ml.
Unfortunately the "attitude" system makes Piefed unusable.
Agree, this seems completely toxic and ripe for abuse.
Whats the "attitude" system?
PieFed keeps track of how many upvotes and downvotes you give, displays that on your profile and if you downvote too much it takes away your downvote button. That happened to me after a weekend of use. This is Lemmy. There's a lot here that needs downvoting.
Are you downvoting to disagree or are you downvoting because it’s not contributing to the conversation?
This question shows the inherent flaw with putting any value beyond the function of voting, which is just list ranking.
Some instances would say down voting at all is inherently flawed, and it is healthier to accomplish ranking by upvoting and moderation alone.
As soon as it becomes infeasible to read every comment, downvoting to disagree creates echo chambers and encourages groupthink.
I find the same, though I, and I hope others, use it as an "I agree/this adds to the conversation" button and downvotes exclusively as a "this doesnt add to the conversation or is misinformation" button. I also appreciate seeing the down votes rather than an aggregated score.
Here is the full explanation :)
https://piefed.social/post/2048738#comment_11279843
The full explanation is the same thing. Your context adds nothing.
I think you’re missing this part.
That's exactly what they said though?
Which is? I’m still missing something here.
Piefed is a derivative of Lemmy. So you’re not getting away from it.
And Lemmy is a derivative of Reddit so by your logic you haven’t escaped from it.
Lemmy isn’t compatible with Reddit. Piefed is literally implementing Lemmy’s data structures to specifically be compatible with Lemmy.
So since your stated goal is counter to reality, I have to wonder what your real intent is. I only see this drama as weakening Lemmy and Piefed by extension, not strengthening anything.
piefed is not a derivative. It's not a fork. It's a completely different project, in a very different programming language even.
neither does it implement specifically lemmy's data structures. its not compatible with lemmy specifically. piefed implements activitypub, and is compatible with activitypub servers. activitypub is not lemmy.
PieFed is absolutely a "derivative" in terms of its DNA. It’s basically built as a love letter to Lemmy’s specific flavor of ActivityPub.
If you look at the raw JSON, PieFed isn’t just "using ActivityPub", it’s specifically implementing the "Lemmy-isms" that make the Threadiverse work. It uses the same Group actor logic, the same Dislike activity extensions for downvoting, and even mirrors Lemmy’s API routes so you can use apps like Jerboa.
In a way, it’s like how a 3rd-party controller is a "derivative" of a PlayStation controller. The internals are completely different, but it’s shaped exactly that way so it can plug into the same console and work perfectly. PieFed chose to speak "Lemmy-ish" instead of just "ActivityPub-ish" to ensure it wasn't an island.
I don't think this is a problem. these data structures have become semi-standard,and they are working fibe, aren't they? should they just change it for change's sake, so that all clients and servers need to implement compatibility code? the problem with lemmy developers is not these standards they have created
Right.
Any disagreement must be state sponsored shill bots.
You said it not me.
I’m just happy to not support a transphobe and a massive hypocrite build their echo chamber that censors words they consider ‘bad.’
If they spend as much time developing the software as they spend policing thought it might be worth something.
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rule 1
From one socialist (me) to another (you, presumably), the lemmy.ml hate comes from:
I like Lemmy, but can at the same time dislike people who like things I consider to be authoritarian, even if those people created the platform in the first place.
Viewing lemmy.ml content on 'All-Top' is a rather happy medium for me, still get to see some of the best memes
I’m definitely not a socialist. .ml is where I landed when I joined due to not knowing any better and joining the largest (at the time) instance, and honestly the outside hate is keeping me there.