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In the Lord of the Rings fandom there's a persistent debate whether balrogs, or Durin's Bane specifically, have wings. The text in Fellowship is ambiguous whether what it is describing are literal wings or something else wing-like.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 66 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I collect coins, and there's always debates about what a coin is.

For those who don't know, a coin is usually defined as an object with legal tender status somewhere; as opposed to a token that has a face value but is issued by a non-state actor; and a medal, which is anything that looks like a coin but doesn't have any face value.

Now, aside from the expected debate over what is and isn't a state, there's also the issue of NIFC (not intended for circulation) coins. Many mints sell coins that are legal tender, but are never put into circulation, some people (often those that could be characterised as "old school") take the position that as these aren't intended to be used as legal tender, they aren't really coins.

It doesn't help that there are tiny island nations like Niue and Samoa that will basically let companies make anything legal tender if they pay them. This leads to the rather silly situation where a batarang, and a literal statue of hogwarts, are technically "coins". (I've been told this is done as a import tariff dodge as the USA doesn't charge import taxes on coins)

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

Ladies and gentlemen, a coin:

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Imagine being a Samoan shopkeeper and some tourist showing up and trying to pay with a friggin statue of Hogwarts.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's 5ozt of pure silver, so I wouldn't say no...

id accept it as payment, record a video of myself melting it down and making it into a small blahaj figurine, and make the video public to spite and annoy jk rowling and the harry potter fanbase

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the fuck is wrong with Samoa? Like, I can speculate but my speculations are unkind. I don't want to go there.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has the same size population as Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Weird stuff happens on islands.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Weird stuff happens on islands.

my dude, that's a thought stopping phrase. weird shit happens everywhere. there's this toilet in boston

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, it’s probably your racist thing then. Happy?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] starik@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What were the “unkind speculations” you wanted to hint at but not articulate?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

you're doing the antisemite thing again starik.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok, sorry. Now what were your “unkind speculations” about Samoa?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

sorry, i see that i did a racism. i just felt like winding you up a little bit before copping to it.

there's a religion that claims a large portion of samoa belongs to it. i've had bad experiences with that religion. i don't want to open that can of worms but this kind tax fraud type behavior is like, average behavior for the religion (to the point that they had to make it part of sermons that they "don't believe in tax fraud" even though they have (or had) secret religious ceremonies swearing vengeance against the US government like i said can of worms. cults are fun to study but less fun to be in).

my bigotries are a little less about race and a little more about who has stabbed me in the back.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

More like you did a vague posting that hinted at something being wrong with Samoans in general.

Now I’m curious what the religion is. Their census says most are Christian. It also says ~15% are Mormon. Is that the one?

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "racist," but I can see how someone might think you sound xenophobic. If I didn't enjoy interacting with your posts so often, I could see how someone would see your tone as trying to "other" and shame an entire culture. But I know that's usually not where you're coming from.