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[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is this budget for convincing the general public to support them, or convincing US politicians? Because if it’s the former I don’t see it working or anyone believing the lies. Bloomberg tried something similar to get into the democratic primary and I’m pretty sure he failed spectacularly.

But I’d bet it’s the latter, and I let buying US politicians will continue to be successful. Because if both republicans and democrats support Israel, even if the public hates them who else is there to vote for?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

or convincing US politicians?

That involves bags of money delivered via AIPAC and, shall we say, more informal means. That has been a long-term and extraordinarily successful effort.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

It's definitely for the former

$730 million for public diplomacy — the broad category known in Hebrew as hasbara — nearly five times the $150 million they allocated the year before.

Hasbara is about changing perception of the general public. The only reason we see some shift in government officials changing their course is because of how toxic support from Israel is seen (so much so that they can lose elections because of it).

So long as Israel can perform public advocacy to at least get to a place of neutral outlook (or become a sideline topic), then they'd have achieved their goals.

Israel's current stated goal is to increase Arab-phobia and Islamophobia through populism and anti-immigration rhetoric to be greater than people's disdain for Israel.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

3rd parties, independents, just not voting period, there are a lot of options... we're too far gone now though, no matter what we need to fully destroy and rebuild our government from the constitution up.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every time an election comes up though, everyone is like “we need to vote for the democrats because third party/not voting is ‘a vote for the republicans’” and sadly I have to admit due to how first past the post elections work they do have a point. So any individual voting for anything other than a democrat (or not voting) makes it less likely the democrats win and more likely republicans win, and they’re by far the worse option (and still pro Israel).

Maybe Israel’s propaganda is to dissuade people from voting for anti-Israel politicians in the primaries and the like, rather than directly make them look good.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

In your hypothetical you stated that every voter was over both parties. If that were the case then any candidate outside of our 2 established right wing parties would win. But yes in reality we are too stupid to do literally anything else besides let the nepo babies and most malignant of our species control everything with 0 repercussions, been like that since the day we developed speech and human societies and it will remain so until we are no more. We are the species with the least ability to learn apparently, even with all the new tools we constantly develop to help us we are doomed to repeat the exact same mistakes for the entirety of our existence.