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[–] MastKalandar@feddit.online -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why Europe treats Russia as an enemy is their chemistry, just as there's a great chemistry between Modi and Putin.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Bullshit. Europe was ready to help Russia after they became a democracy, and gave up their occupations in Europe. It was Russia that ruined it completely and one sidedly.
After Putin took over, he very quickly began to do stuff that is inconsistent with cooperation, yet Europe tried to continue cooperation, because the European sentiment is that cooperation is the best way to become more friendly.
But Putin sabotaged it completely, sabotaging European politics, and performing war crimes against former Soviet states.
Taking Crimea in 2014 should have been the end of this cooperation, but even after that, Europe tried to continue to work with Russia.
It wasn't until Russia invaded Ukraine that cooperation with Russia was finally ended. And it wasn't until a couple of years ago, that politicians openly acknowledged that Russia has been interfering in European elections.

India is holding a double standard when they cooperate with Russia, and still blame Europe for colonialism despite European countries have abandoned it. And especially EU which has a treaty that requires respect for human rights.

How many countries have accepted human rights to a degree that they have to respect a foreign court on human rights issues?
ALL EU countries have done that!!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Europe was ready to help Russia after they became a democracy

Reagan sent neocon fanatics to Russia, which led to uncontrolled privatization in which ownership of billion-dollar entities fell into the hands of the mafia, the security apparatus and Yeltsin's cronies. That set the stage for the current Russian kleptocracy under Putin. Europe helped former Warsaw Pact states far more than it did Russia, though there was some limited cooperation with Russia as well.

Generally speaking, the EU leadership has been overly cautious (as you said) in calling out Russian imperlism and its interference in European politics in general, and has been weak in enforcing sanctions on Russia. And signing up to treaties on human rights doesn't seem to have prevented EU states from mass surveillance, or (in the case of Hungary under Orban, among other states) of undermining citizens' right to vote, gay rights, or protection from state bullying.

As for India, Modi would love to be the Putin of southern Asia, and nothing would make him happier than a genocide against Indian Muslims.

[–] MastKalandar@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

I don't know how to copy a line from the main comment, otherwise l would have copied the concluding paragraph.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reagan sent neocon fanatics to Russia

And what does that have to do with Europe?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Collapse of USSR was engineered by western powers which included EU. Yeltsin was very dear to washington and brussles, and the economic policies he adopted on the behest of World bank and IMF (primarily europe dominated institutions) led to death of approx 12 million russians and formation of the kleptocracy that brought putin in power.

[–] MastKalandar@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I belong to a place which had been a colony of France, and we do have a genial feeling towards France/French. It's British towards whom we have that colonial master kind of feeling. Goa had to be freed through army intervention from Portugal, but no ill feeling towards Portugal today.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The British were extremely brutal in India, and I can understand that India doesn't feel comfortable cooperating with UK, especially on for instance defense.
But UK is not in EU anymore, and still India seems to have that anti European sentiment, as if it was Europe and not UK that were the colonists.
Anyways I just find it sad that India prefer to cooperate with Russia, A country that today is clearly worse than Europe and China.
Not siding with USA however, has turned out to be a very good choice. USA has turned to absolute shit, and is extremely unreliable.

[–] MastKalandar@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

If you look at the headline, you would understand that Modi is a showman. If you believe that lndia is not siding with the USA, then probably you don't have a proper understanding of the dynamics. You don't need to be a student of international relations to see that a new world order is emerging. 7 days would have been a long time for the US to finish off the job in the middle east, yet what's the situation today ??

Talking about defense per se, it's simply a means to captivate and control the common people. You just need to glance at a map of south asia to question Bangladesh's need to arm up. Are you aware of the news that a Chinese fighter jet had broken down in the air and killed several children ?? Why does Bangladesh need to invest in an airforce ???