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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/may/05/richard-dawkins-ai-consciousness-anthropic-claude-openai-chatgpt

Video discussion of this event by Steve Shives (known for his star trek videos but also does politics) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMQAv-JYpk

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[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Basically this part

"If anyone says that they know for sure that LLMs or future AI systems couldn’t possibly be conscious, it’s more likely to be an indicator of their own dogmatism than a reflection of the current state of scientific and philosophical opinion,” he said.

Current AI systems are unlikely to be conscious, said Jeff Sebo, the director of the Center for Mind, Ethics and Policy at New York University, but “Dawkins is right to ask about AI consciousness with an open mind and I also think that the attribution of consciousness to AI systems will become more plausible over time”.

tl;dr it is unlikely but not impossible and I don't think we would ever be able to reliably tell.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Well I don't think a statistical probability formula can ever be conscious. Nor create it.

Just like I don't think a formula to calculate the speed of a car ever has the possibility of creating consciousness.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

We currently can't even be sure that other humans are conscious. It's an inherently internal experience, and we just have to rely on trusting other people's accounts and "If I am, you probably are too" logic. Unfortunately neither of these approaches generalizes well to other species, or especially to AI.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

Buddhism would tell you that there is no "self" to speak of. Without a self how can there be consciousness?

The edges of our reality have never been anything we can perceive. However, it seems that they're far away enough such that we can do fun things like have buttsex and smoke drugs, so I'm ok with it.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It’s more likely to be an indicator of their own dogmatism than a reflection of the current state of scientific and philosophical opinion,” he said.

Current AI systems are unlikely to be conscious, said Jeff Sebo, the director of the Center for Mind, Ethics and Policy at New York University

this is some "Arrested development" tier shit