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[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

javascript doesn't have arrays. the backing data structure is a doubly-linked list.

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I’m aware, I added fuel, not peace and love

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

and the backing for that is linear or page addressed MOS transistors, spinning rust or flippy-round magnets.

do you have a source that indicates mainstream JS engines internally uses a list structure for arrays? I can't find one.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

skipped a few steps there i think.

anyway, good question. led me to some cursed code.

the ArrayObject in spidermonkey is an interface to either a TypedArrayObject or a SharedArrayObject. those both have an inner ArrayBuffer object, which is a view into ArrayBufferObjectMaybeShared, which contains a refcounted vector of uint8 pointers, regardless of the datatype. soooo all arrays in javascript are... strings?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

skipped a few steps there i think.

thanks for the considered reply. didn't mean to jump all the way down to electrons and sound so flippant.

my claim is that JavaScript arrays are arrays because the spec defines their behavior as such. the implementation details are absolutely interesting from a performance perspective and I was genuinely curious how an internally linked list implementation would actually work, real-world. regardless... almost every interaction I have ever had with a JS programmer has ended in "its strings all the way down".. so... I mean... yes-ish?

loved your poking of the hornets nest in this thread :-)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 12 hours ago

i was thinking between the linked list and the transistors :)

also, i mean... what you might call an array i might call a vector. js arrays allow elements of different types, so they are by definition not arrays in the traditional sense. them being chars internally does make sense in a gross way.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's a different kind of array (Float32Array etc.), not the "normal" kind.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i couldn't actually find any of that in spidermonkey. i was looking in js/vm/arrayobject and its parents, didn't see any others.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

i did look at that but i started out here: https://searchfox.org/firefox-main/source/js/src/vm/ArrayObject.h because it inherits from NativeObject.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and since that's the wrong place I kept looking, and found the link I just sent you

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 11 hours ago

i edited my thing, i did start at array.cpp but only found references to other places so i went digging down the stack.