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‘Canada is handing people over to ICE’: refugees rejected at border face US detention
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 23 May 2026
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Canada is implementing sane immigration reform - it's certainly not perfect, but comparing any facet of it to ICE is disingenuous and serves only to normalize the current state of American politics
To anyone downvoting this: respectfully, pay more attention. There is a global attack on immigration policy being perpetuated by the United States - it's no coincidence that the conversation has shifted from US policy to immigration policy in every western country, basically overnight.
The immigration policies of Western nations have been abhorrent and evil for decades. It's an Overton window shift to sanewash the bullshit that gets desperate people killed every year. So much money has been spent on walls and not an ounce of effort put forth into providing stability to the nations people flee.
The darwinistic mentality of geopolitics and global capitalism are the entire reason there is so much immigration. If weaker countries are ruthlessly fucked over and nothing is done to help them, then you get more immigration. There is no free lunch; our entire standard of living costs more than we pay.
Besides, US immigration policy is something everyone should pay attention to. Every country is at risk of following us. Never think that it can't happen there.
You've found so many arguments I didn't make, while completely ignoring what I said.
Comparing literal rising Nazis to having an asylum policy is fucking insane. Stop.
The more we make these comparisons, the more normalized America's "policy" becomes. Just like anything else in the media, it causes fatigue, then familiarity, then acceptance. This style of political firehosing is the cornerstone of the Trump administration and you're perpetuating their success.
Attack the policy of western nations, don't sane wash America by placing them anywhere fucking near any other western country in 2026.
And all the people that die every year trying to cross the Mediterranean is sane? The massacre at El Tarajal beach in 2014 is an isolated incident that doesn't represent a larger problem with how Europe treats African Immigrants? The UK leaving the European Union, largely on worries about immigration, doesn't represent a homebrewed fascist threat from across the pond?
So many voters think harsher immigration control is something we should all just get on board with. We should just throw those people to the wolves and appease the reactionaries. If you collaborate with them on this, surely they won't still claim that you're letting migrants stream into your country, right?
Immigration has been a defining issue in far right movements gaining power across Europe, and liberals ceeding the narrative is a powerful tool in their moment's arsenal. First they come for the immigrants, and you do not speak out for you were not an immigrant. Demand France and Britain and all the empires that fucked over Africa to right their past wrongs, or hold your tongue.
As a person with their head squarely on the chopping block for my ethnicity, gender, and political views, it insults me that you think I'm sane washing America. It disgusts me that you somehow think European politics aren't at risk of heading the same direction as our own. It's pathetic that you refuse to consider how common and popular assumptions might be fundamentally flawed.
More so than the actual Nazis in my country, it's your counterparts who make me most hopeless for our future.
I'm really not sure why you're trying to demonize me and make assumptions about every view I could possibly have, without any evidence.
All I have said is that roving armed patrols, putting people in death camps and forcing them to drown at your border is not the same as legal, written and enforced policy, and that it's dangerous to liken one to the other.
You're free to attack immigration policy. I do too. Its simply maddening to me that we're allowing the media to muddy the waters with right wing ideology in every conversion, normalizing it for the masses. The more we do that, the less we get to argue about actual policy decisions.
You are quite literally harming your cause, both by attacking an ally over pedantics and allowing immoral rhetoric into the conversation.