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Blue Origin rocket, owned by Jeff Bezos, explodes during test in Florida | Blue Origin
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Hopefully it's not a design issue. Somebody needs to compete with SpaceX so Elon Musk doesn't have an iron grip on space. Bezos sucks but at least they'd be forced to keep other in check if New Glenn works.
Here's an idea: instead of private corporations sucking $20B a year on bad engineering, why not directly use that money for a not for profit federal agency?
We could call it the National Aeronautic Space Administration for Launches. Or, NASAL.
NASA just made a rocket - the Space Launch System. It was ridiculously more expensive than SpaceX's rocket. And the Space Shuttle before that was also very expensive and suboptimal.
I am not a private sector fundamentalist (fuck privatized healthcare), but rocket launches is one area where the private sector has proven better than the public sector.
The thing is. SLS is ludicrously more expensive then Space X rocket because congress basically strong armed NASA into re-using shuttle hardware to keep jobs. And SLS can put about 100t, twice as much payload to orbit compared to Falcon Heavy.
Shuttle was supposed to be a lot more reusable, with a reusable 1st stage, as well as the shuttle we know. But, post Apolo budget cut (and quite frankly technological limitations of 1970s), killed the design. NASA had to compromise further to keep the program going, by offering to allow the air force to use a shuttle for satellite capture (which it never did). And skipping technical details, it made the shuttle even less reusable, and also gave it it's iconic look with the wing in the rears.
I forgot my point so take the info dump for free
If I may extract one point: it got expensive because of politics, and that's mostly why politics should stay out of these kinds of developments. That should be true of either publicly or privately funded ventures.
My sweet summer child, where do you think NASA actually gets its rockets from? You think they build them themselves? You think there were federal employees bending metal and turning wrenches at the space shuttle factory?
The difference is design and oversight. With a NASA vehicle, the government is in charge of the design process and construction, although these tasks are mostly done by outside companies on government contracts. With a company like SpaceX or Blue Origin, the design and testing and operation is done by the company who then sells launch contracts to NASA.
If you think the government can do better, I encourage you to take a look at SLS.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/12/six-years-after-orions-first-spaceflight-america-still-waits-for-an-encore/ This is a few years old but it's very relevant. As of 2020, NASA had spent more on the Orion vehicle and one flight than SpaceX had spent cumulatively on all space activities combined (including falcon, dragon, Merlin, starlink, and the beginnings of starship)
believe me, I am all for public space. The problem is Congress fucking sucks. And also NASA can't afford as much as said private corporations
We have that already: NASA's Space Launch System.
It's ... debatable whether it gives better results than commercial contracts.
But how are we gonna make any money on that? What about all the red tape??
hashtag think of the billionaires
the chinese competition is the best thing that happened to american spaceflight in the last few years. we need a kick in the butt, and we're getting one
Sadly the Chinese private space industry still is miles off SpaceX and their public space programme is while certainly competent AFAIK in many moral ways not much different from SpaceX even ignoring the CCP's issues.
Like I know Long March 5B's issue was solved but the fact that they acted like it didn't need solving is damning
Honda is launching and returning just fine.
Let me ask you one simple question: what country is Honda from
That being said, the accomplishments by CNSA are great. Wolf Amendment needs to be removed yesterday. And Tiangong is going to be a staple for years to come.
I just hope that my colonisers aren't the next country to make it onto the lunar surface cuz fuck the XiCP
Rocket Lab is doing well. Should really take off when they get Neutron off the launch pad
I hope so! But also it's going to need testing and that might take ages. Also New Glenn is competing with Starship / Falcon Heavy iirc so different class
New Glenn wont really be competing with starship if they truly make it rapidly and fully reusable. Its gonna be a massive shift in access to space.
Until thats a proven capability though, then ya theyll be competing.
If starship works, New Glenn will likely only get launches as it'll be imperative to still fund other space programs so there are backups and so they can improve and catch up.
Edit: and any non US country wanting to avoid a US launch partner will be avoiding both of them, so they wont compete that way either.
Yep, this effectively handed Musk complete dominance for another 12 months.