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Fallout 4 is, by far, the best Fallout game.
Yes, having dialogs limited to 4 simplified options is unfortunate. Doesn't matter, the rest of the game and gameplay makes up for that ten times over.
And yes, I am including New Vegas in the comparison.
Also there's a game called Valfaris that I think is rad as hell. It wasn't disliked so much as completely slept on. Definitely worth looking at if you like tough retro 2d shoot & platform games
FO4 is far from unpopular. Yes, people have complaints about it, but it's pretty universally enjoyed. It just could be so much better.
Cool man, I followed the spirit of the question rather than the letter of the law, but point taken.
It plays a lot better just mechanically, but the story and dialogue are hot garbage and it (not uniquely when it comes to the 3D Fallouts) lacks the edge of the originals. Also the settlement stuff is half baked and tacked on. I've probably gotten more playtime out of FO4 just because the combat is so much better than all the others, and settlement mods help make that part of the game much more compelling.
I feel like comparing 3d Fallout to 1 & 2 is almost pointless, they're effectively entirely different games and universes, imo. That said, I think F4 is more immersive and diagetically-believable than 1&2, even if the themes and storytelling are shallower.
F1&2 are better storytelling games, F4 is a better immersive RPG.
And I fully loved the settlement building and even the unpopular minutemen help/recruitment missions. Though I concede that they're way better with mods, but everything in any Bethesda game (including Obsidian-partnered New Vegas) is vastly improved with mods; I genuinely don't even understand how people can play a Bethesda game on console without the ability to mod
Bethesda games always have bland dialogue and a bad storyline (Not counting New Vegas, perhaps). For me, they are about exploration, freedom of movement and world building and I liked Fallout 4 in that regard
New Vegas isn't a Bethesda game though.
I really enjoy Fallout 4. It's got problems but I think Bethesda did a good job taking the honestly kinda bad Fallout 3 and turning it into a far better Bethesda open world.
Fallout 3 is too tied to the Fallout IP in ways that are detrimental. They keep a lot of the Fallout style RPG elements but... Do so in a way that is really bad as a fallout rpg and doesn't make for an interesting Bethesda open world. So it ends up being kinda just bad.
Fallout 4 takes the game in its own direction and really improves on the gameplay itself. Exploring, looting, crafting, and building, all work really well together and make a just really fun game to play around in.
Most of its flaws come from once again, being too tied to the fallout IP. Significantly less so than 3 though. Also I don't mean that if they just renamed it, it'd be better. If it wasn't a fallout game, and wasn't trying to keep a lot of the design and baggage that series has, it probably could've been far better.
New vegas is a better mesh of classic fallout CRPG with the Bethesda style. Fallout 4 is a really damn good open world sandbox.
i give 3 a pass because it pretty much had to write the groundwork for how fallout would be approached in the future. that and without it, we wouldnt have new vegas. or wed have the cancelled fallout 3 but then the ncr would have been nuked
I think I agree with all of this. Good take