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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You know what? You're absolutely correct. This is all public, non controversial information. Which is I will share this link so people here can actually read about this movement and see for themselves that you're conspiracy theory nut that's full of shit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Finders_(movement)#1987_child_abuse_investigation

First of all, there's literally zero mentions, connections, or even allegations that this weird movement had anything to do with Mossad, Israel, or Zionism. That's literally you making stuff up.

Second of all, based on the article linked above, there's also zero mentions of CIA involvement anywhere. The closest thing you'll get to that is the cult founder's wife and son used to work for the CIA. His son cut contact with him in 1985 when he started a home inspection business. There's nothing in the article that mentions anything about this movement actually being run by the CIA. Again, the closest thing you'll get to that is this:

The 1987 investigation received wider attention in 1993, when Henry T. "Skip" Clements, an officer in private-sector consulting and a resident of Stuart, Florida, obtained a copy of a report which stated that the Washington, D.C. police investigation into the Finders had been dropped as a "CIA internal matter." Clements alleged that the Central Intelligence Agency had compelled the Customs Service to cease their 1987 investigation because the commune was used as a front to train agents. Clements' allegations drew the interest of two U.S. representatives, Tom Lewis and Charlie Rose, leading to a Department of Justice investigation.[9][12] The CIA denied any involvement,[6] and CIA spokesman David Christian asserted that the 1993 accusations were a misunderstanding stemming from a CIA training contractor, Future Enterprises Inc. where one Finders member worked as a part-time accountant

Which doesn't prove anything because the founder and his family lived in DC, and that's where he formed his weird little cult, and as it so happens, government agencies like the CIA are big employers in that city. You're making it sound as if this was a CIA run predecessor to Epstein island, which its not.

Finally, when you actually look at the alleged activities of this group, they were never even accused, let alone indicted on child trafficking. The only criminal activity this group has mentioned in the article is two members being arrested for misdemeanor child abuse, which in this case was not sexual abuse, but neglect. The Florida's state police as well federal authorities investigated the situation but couldn't find any evidence for criminal activity so the charge were charged and the two men were released.

Most of the allegations about them being CIA run operation or them being a satanic cult or being an international pedo ring or whatever all comes from the media, which as the sources in the article imply were done to capitalize on the Satanic Panic that was happening in the 80s.

Now, here's the thing. If you're critical of this group, that's fine. If you're critical of the law enforcement investigations done on this group, that's also fine. If you're skeptical of the CIA, go right ahead. However, what's not fine is when you literally make up shit and try to pass it on as fact. Your claims have no evidence, no sources, no substance, nothing. What I posted here is public information, and it contradicts what you said. Meaning that you're either really ignorant or you're a conspiracy theory nut who's spreading misinformation. Either way, it's unacceptable and you need to do better.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Nice try. There are connections with the CIA even if they aren't a smoking gun. They protected them and sent agents to train with them as well.

https://apnews.com/article/4c5cd8141e930159ea3e4f0492a41ade

Furthermore there is a long history of letting child molesters flee to Isreal and using child rape as blackmail. This includes Epstein.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/jeffrey-epstein-may-have-had-links-to-israeli-leaders-the-rolling-stone-674244

You can pretend all you want, but all I see is a defender of pedophiles using doubt to sow discord. We know they are molesting children. We know POTUS is in on it. We know Israel used Mossad and the US used the CIA to supply children to wealthy people as rewards and blackmail.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I read there is a "we investigated ourselves and saw no wrongdoing" kind of deal, with the extra steps of collusion between government organizations and judges in their pockets.