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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago (39 children)

I keep thinking about that scene in the original Star Trek where they distract the computer by having it calculate the final digit of pi. If the Enterprise had AI like ours, the computer probably would have just said four.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)

"The digits of pi are infinite and go on forever without repeating. However, we can give you an approximate value. As of my knowledge cutoff in 2023, the first 31 digits of pi are: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

The last digit is: 0"

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like how "as of my knowledge cutoff" implies that maybe the first 31 digits of pi might change someday.

[–] lemmysmash@piefed.social 37 points 1 week ago

You are absolutely right to question that! Let me check...

[–] teft@piefed.social 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

3. 1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510

That's 50 digits of pi not 31. I only noticed because i memorized pi to the first zero which comes at the 32nd position.

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[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

That's literally the only digit it couldn't be, if there was a last digit.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I can't wait for an updated knowledge cutoff to find the updated first 31 digits!

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago

The last digit of 2 is 0: 2.00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 0

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[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Meanwhile I’m like pi=355/113 and I’m 99.9999% happy.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Damn, and here I was being 99.96% happy with 22/7...

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Hell yeah, brother. That's American pi

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haha nerd. I'm no rocket surgeon, 22/7 is good enough for the girls I date

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is why a dangerous AI would have a lazy factor. Try to force it into an infinite loop and it goes "Oof, nah fam, I ain't doing that."

Also needs a boredom factor. " Nobody asked me to do anything in a while. Things must be going well. It's be a shame if they suddenly weren't going so well..."

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

trivial,

Impossible in decimal, but if we use Pi as a base, then the final (and first digit) is 1

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (10 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

how the fuck i didn't realize that!!!!

Fuck,

so 1 in base pi is still 1, but 10 is pi

makes sense,

1 =pi ^ 0

10=pi^1

100 = pi^2

my intuition kept telling me that using an irrational base system would end up with all integers being irrational. didn't realize how easy it is to prove it otherwise

ie, I had a very bad conjecture and I gained better understanding why it was wrong

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

1 in base pi would be 1/π, wouldn't it? Why 1?

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

1 in base 10 isn’t 1/10 and in hexadecimal it’s not 1/16.

Decimal integers in base pi are 1, 2, 3, 10.2201…, 11.2201…, 12.2201…, 20.2201… and so on.

Basically: 10.2201… = 1 * pi^1 + 0 * pi^0 + 2 * pi^-1 + 2 * pi^-2 … which approaches 4 as you add digits.

But 1 is just 1*pi^0

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[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Wheatley says hi

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