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Echo chambers are not a good thing, but when liberals enter leftist spaces they bring their liberalisms and their arrogance with them and turn vile when it's pointed out their methods are a failure no matter how many times they repeat them
The only comments excluded are the ones defending empire.
You say empire like it's a capitalist thing. Empires existed long before capitalism. I'm not trying to be a problem here, I fully support a transition away from Capitalism in many industries, but your black and white worldview pushed by emotions is just not helpful in the real world.
While capitalism has many problems, and bad problems at that, the alternatives all have their own significant problems as well. To me, a mixture of economic systems based on industry and necessity would result in the best outcome for people, which is my only real goal. Real estate should not be capitalist, the government should own all land or it should be handled as a communism system. Socialism works well for many other necessities, like utilities, basic food, healthcare, etc. I don't mind capitalism remaining for luxuries, it does a good job in that style of market where it allows opportunity and flexibility that the other two systems can't compete with.
So you want socialism as long as you can still have the exploitation under capitalism. Which are essentially saying is that you don't want to give up the privileges the status quo has provided you.
This was specifically addressed in 1937 by Mao in Combat Liberalism:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm
Yet you're still here. Curious for an echo chamber
In a place where speaking about building data centers in an ecologically- responsible manner is unanimously rejected.
People really don’t like seeing nuance to things
"Nuance" has really just become the other end of "its not that deep."
it's not that universally rejected. more like 90% reject it.
Follow the crowd. Always the best path to truth.
That's because no one needs a data center, so even if it's ecologically responsible, it's still a waste of time, money, energy, resources, and space.
Several otherwise intractable problems are being solved. New medical treatments such as a Parkinson's medication. The management of the containment field of a fusion reactor. New materials research. You just don't see those. You only see cat videos. What I see is a lot of folks desperate to get their hands on this equipment to do all kinds of actual valuable work.
What I see is a few folks desparate to get their hands on the money and personal data of the working class. How many data centers do we already have? If the oligarchs weren't so busy convincing society that ai is necessary for every single aspect of existence, they wouldn't need new ones, we could devote all existing centers to actually doing the helpful things you're talking about. Instead they're devoted to performing web searches and making child porn. Haven't you wondered why those desparate folks you see don't already have their hands on the equipment? It's because the people in charge don't want to solve those problems, they just want to see line go up.
I appreciate your view. There are a lot of things wrong with society. And capitalism is a big one. But I believe your anger is misplaced - on the things rather than the people.
I wish you the best.
Thanks! I guess I don't know what you mean though, are you saying I'm angry at things and should be angry at people or that I'm angry at people and should be angry at things? Because if you reread my last comment, clearly I'm angry at the people, not the things. And anger at inanimate objects is unhelpful, so I'm guessing that's not what you meant? Honestly asking, not trying to be a dick.
Regardless, I still don't see a reason we need more data centers when most of the ones we already have are societally useless, if not fully destructive.