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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

WTF? They ALL know that not a single citizen in any country, anywhere in the world wants this, and yet they are all forcing it to happen.

We may hav to kill every politician, and burn down every government to make things normal in this world again.

[–] myszka@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government doesn't exist to fulfill the wishes of individuals. Its goal is securing the collective national well-being of the country as a whole - something no given group of individuals can do. And when there's a threat to country's survival (which is probably the upcoming World War Three in this case), the collective interest comes to oppose the individual freedom because suddenly everyone becomes very dependant on one another.

That being said, I don't support those measures. What I'm saying is the problem is deeper than bad government.

[–] tired_fedora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Can you explain in a little more detail how enforcing online ID prevents WW3? Genuinely curious. The only thing I think of that national online ID might help with is counter intelligence, especially in defense against psyops. However, in the few cases that we do know about psyops toppling elections, e.g., Brexit, these were performed on behalf of or with the aid of party and government officials in the affected countries. If any, this would become easier, because widespread online ID silents dissenting voices, while well-financed entities can navigate and / or circumvent such regulation (also see, for example, the effect of GDPR on the market structure of attention merchants in Europe).

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They get into politics because they are obsessed with control.

We probably need a system were politicians are not actually in control. Then they might be some who doesn't get into it just because they want to mandate other people what they can or cannot do.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At this point, selecting random people off the street would result in a healthier democracy. Politicians have room to be dumb and evil, because they inherited money and social connections. A rando would have to be actually skilled if they want to obtain such things.

[–] tired_fedora@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Introducing Athenian democracy: Place your name on a paper slip. Place that slip in a big bag. If your name gets pulled, congrats: You are now a politician for an allotted time. Also works with marble slips for extra flair.

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

At this point, selecting random people off the street would result in a healthier democracy.

Sortition.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they get into politics because they are obsessed with money. the elites are the ones paying for control.