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[โ€“] luthis@lemmy.nz 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

False premise. Zoophilia isn't condemned because animal rights etc. It's condemned because 'ew WTF we don't want people doing that, to the extent that we will make laws against it.'

It's the same reason that we have laws against incest. Had laws against homosexuality.

I'm not saying it should be allowed because we (some of us) grew up and realised that laws against homosexuality were stupid. Just that, that is the reason. Collective societal disgust. It's only justified by using animal rights (and rightly so, because EW) the same way we justified antihomo laws because it goes against some obscure biblical / Koranic rule.

[โ€“] einkorn@feddit.org 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

It's the same reason that we have laws against incest.

I'd argue it's also the fact that because of the low genetic diversity of the parents children born from incest have a higher chance of developing genetical diseases.

The chance is lower than most people presume but at the same time: why gamble?

[โ€“] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What about same sex incest, or where one or both partners are sterile, or between adopted siblings who aren't related genetically? That would still be considered wrong, right? Even though there wouldn't be genetic consequences

[โ€“] einkorn@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Personally? IDGF about what two consenting adults do in bed. My only objection is when it comes to children being born from incest because of the higher risk of genetic diseases.

between adopted siblings who aren't related genetically?

Don't know where you from but AFAIK that's perfectly legal in Germany.

[โ€“] Azzu@leminal.space 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes but that is also a rationalization after the fact. First, it was ew, then we figured out that there were also rational reasons against it.

[โ€“] ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

It's been the norm in many countries for centuries, so can't have been seen as EW as you claim

[โ€“] luthis@lemmy.nz 4 points 6 hours ago

That's a great justification for the EW