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The Israeli government was not shown the memorandum of understanding drafted to end the war with Iran, an Israeli government official told NBC News on Wednesday, the latest sign of growing tension between the United States and Israel.

Shortly after Donald Trump said he had given a copy of the MOU to Israel, the same source said Israel still hadn’t seen the draft. The source wouldn’t comment on whether or not Israeli diplomats had asked for the text and were denied it.

The Israeli government’s absence in the negotiations leading up to the MOU has become a perilous hindrance for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who faces career-defining elections before the end of October. The deal framework was provided to NBC News by a senior U.S. official later on Wednesday.

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I understand the logic, but I think Trump and Biden had entirely different reasons for their support with only donors being in the center of their venn diagram. Biden was a zionist through and through. He believed Israel was aligned with our interests in the middle east and if anything changed it would have been sold as Bibi being the issue, as liberals are pretending right now that Ben Gavir and other hardliners don't exist. I think Trump cannot even say that much because they have evidence on his crimes against children. It's long been obvious that Trump was compromised by Israel, but the media largely only reported his conflicts of interest with Russia. The intelligence agencies believed Israel was the largest concern when it came to Trump. Trump while he doesn't seem opposed to zionism, he would only ever see it as a positive since it runs cover for the type of society he would like to have and gives him lessons on what steps to achieve that. Especially now that Viktor Orban has been kicked out of power.

[–] DrakeAlbrecht@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Trump while he doesn’t seem opposed to zionism, he would only ever see it as a positive since it runs cover for the type of society he would like to have and gives him lessons on what steps to achieve that.

Trump's primary reason for supporting Israel is to prop up his support among Christian Zionists, who believe Israel needs to exist in order to facilitate their messiah's return.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Support for what reason? He doesn't care about his already trash reputation. He doesn't act in any way like a populist any more, even to evangelicals. Are we just going to pretend this isn't obvious?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/epstein-files-fbi-memo-says-israel-compromised-trump-epstein-had-mossad-ties

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Biden was a zionist through and through.

That's my point...

Biden was very open about the reason he'd give Israel anything, was a conversation he had with his dad as a very small child which boiled down to: the Jewish people have been treated even worse than Catholics, no matter what happens you have to always support Israel because they'll come for Catholics next.

Regardless of anything else, Biden will always be 100% loyal to Israel because of that

trump doesn't give a fuck about Israel if the arrangement is no longer profitable to him personally, he's out.

So Israel was better off with Biden/Kamala, because Kamala would be 100% loyal to Israel for just the money. But we will never have a more Israel aligned president than Biden, and Bibi is a fucking idiot for not doing all he could to get Biden a second term because of that

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

trump doesn't give a fuck about Israel if the arrangement is no longer profitable to him personally, he's out.

So Israel was better off with Biden/Kamala, because Kamala would be 100% loyal to Israel for just the money. But we will never have a more Israel aligned president than Biden, and Bibi is a fucking idiot for not doing all he could to get Biden a second term because of that

I think the crux of my message was that while both of them are attached to Israel, one of them is due to their own beliefs and the other is due to pressure. If it was his voters exerting that pressure keeping us in I could not see that even mattering right now. His approval is dogshit and the war only hurts it more. I think it would be naive to ignore how many times Trump has been cucked by Israel where he basically has only also done so by China. In other words, he only allows this if there's no choice. What about Israel's war presents no choice for the US? I think it's far more personal why there's no choice, and the evidence suggests compromise.