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[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is this a safe space for me to admit smth controversial

Idrc for zoophilia. Humans > animals anyway, why should I care if someone fucks one. I find it disgusting ofc, but just bc I find smth disgusting doesnt mean it's wrong per se

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Human exceptionalism is disgusting.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I mean it's the only correct position but whatever

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it’s the only correct position but whatever

Why is it the only correct position?

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -1 points 21 hours ago

Ur right I was being hyperbolic, my bad. But I have found this perspective good and useful for my life

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I get it. You personally are disgusted but still find it morally neutral and/or good. Ok sure that's just personal taste. My bad πŸ˜…

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I get it.

No you don't, lol.

Without an extensive and biodiverse ecosystem, we wouldn't be here. We're actively destroying that, because we think we're removed from nature.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is why we should command nature. Being both part of it and smarter than it, we are its masters and must ensure its survival out of necessity for our own.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I see why you named yourself "nonconfrontational" now. You have a bad habit of not getting to the fuckin point LMAO

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Are you stupid? My point is that human exceptionalism is disgusting, you came out and confirmed you're a human exceptionalist, and I called you disgusting.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I'm a proud human exceptionalist, I don't think I've hidden my stance once. Performing outrage just to prod at someone is wasting both of our times tbh. Your contributions like a driver honkin when the light just turned green: loud, annoying, and profoundly useless. Really living up to that sad, sad username.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And you're like the driver ahead of me putting lipstick on in the mirror at a green light, holding up progress. Sometimes the honk is the only thing that snaps idiots like you out of it.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You can't continue an analogy into a domain of nonsense. How the fuck am I halting traffic lmao.

You did not even present a stance to convince any onlookers who may see this conversation (because we all know that arguments online are more for their opinions anyway). All you've done is come across as needlessly belligerent. Hardly the "propaganda of the deed" you're looking for. Gonna tack lazy onto my growing list of insults for you (which, for the record, now includes: loud, annoying, useless, incoherent, belligerent, lazy).

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ man, I can't understand it for you. If you don't get how human exceptionalism is holding us back as a global society, I don't have enough crayons to dumb it down any more.

I couldnt give less of a fuck about what words you insult me with, your a disgusting idiot, lol.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well it's not. Every development in human quality of life has involved some level of mastery over nature. The creation of fire for nutrient bioavailability. The advent of agriculture for food stability. The subconscious use of genetics and breeding to make better food for ourselves. The transport of food across water to create cities. The freedom from hunting and gathering afforded to some to allow for technological specialization. With the industrial revolution came the green revolution shortly thereafter that made agriculture more efficient with tractors and other powered tools. Using bacteria, C. Elegans, fruit flies, rats, and dogs as model species has advanced our understandings of genetics and of medicine. Speaking of medicine, our mastery over plants and fungi cannot be neglected.

Moreover, none of these avenues are dead ends of development, at least, at the moment. Plant science, agricultural science, medicine, microbiology, and many other fields are active areas of study where we continue to advance our understanding of nature.

Now, in improving our own circumstance, we indeed have run into some quite disastrous issues. Climate change is far and away the largest (which is a consequence of capitalism). Within our drive for self-preservation and improving circumstance, however, we have already concocted some of the solutions. At the very least, power and transportation are both solved through a combination of nuclear and renewable energy.

Moreover, conservation is a necessarily paternal field. We tend to cause the problems that conservation needs to solve, yes, but we're the only species that is capable of identifying there is a problem, finding causes, and trying to solve them. The species that are going extinct don't exactly know that.

To summarize, we are a part of the biosphere, and also masters of it. It gives us sustenance and life but without our intervention it does so in an unstable manner. When we direct it, we ascend beyond mere participants. And when we screw it over (or very rarely, when it screws itself over), we have to be the ones to fix it.

Anyway, I think this is the best I can reasonably treat the onlookers to this conversation. As for you, I'm done talking to you. If you want to be no better than the plants and animals, I'll treat you as such.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You're definitely mentally challenged if you think I'm readin' all that after what I already know about you, lmao. Thanks for effort posting, I guess?

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Dumbass can't read and expects me to believe their stances πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ hit the books kid

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We've been through this. My goal was to call you disgusting. Mission accomplished. I can read fantastically, I read all day. I choose not to read your drivel.

Have a shitty day!

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't tell you to speak. Bad dog.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure any pets in your care are doomed to a life of kibble and crates.

[–] sangeteria@lemmy.ml 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have pets. Why would I have pets when I can save up for children, who actually matter?

[–] when@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly.

  • When we accept humans killing animals. We should also accept humans copulating with animals. In both cases, we are neglecting animal's consent and perspective. It's logically consistent.
  • If we value Animal's perspective and concent then both Killing and Raping of animals by the humans should be abolished. Another consistent argument.
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Only if you don't understand the many differences between fucking and eating?

[–] when@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

From Animal's perspective, They are either getting Murdered or Raped without consenting for either. It would not be fair for the victim if we give verdict based on criminal's perspective.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Look up the definition of murder and rape and tell me where it says animal. Last I checked it says person or people.