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[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 62 points 21 hours ago (12 children)

Why would anyone use WhatsApp when there’s Signal?

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Because it’s unfair to assume that everyone has the necessary education or awareness of what the internet is and what online privacy means that we take for granted.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Because in my country historically the telecom companies are charging 0.30€ per SMS (text) and 2€ per MMS (text with photo).

So WhatsApp when they launched with their "1€/lifetime" offer on the iPhone 3GS they were the right app at the right time and became the de facto replacement for any kind of messaging. It's insane how basically overnight they replaced msn messenger and Skype because it was so convenient (Microsoft never did a smartphone client for msn messenger, only unofficial ones. It was available on dumbphones but it used SMS from the plan to send/receive, nobody used it because you needed to be a millionaire to afford it)

SMS now in my country is only for receiving OTP codes, for the rest is WhatsApp, because still in 2026 the telecoms are still charging 2€ for each MMS sent and nobody wants to risk huge bills. This includes iMessage because if a chat suddenly goes green and you didn't notice, it costs dozens of euro

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Your telecoms are ripping you off. SMS messages 'ride' on the normal connection mechanism to cell phone towers. If your phone connects to a cell phone tower, it already has the space and data to attach an sms and requires nothing else. SMS are 'free' from the infrastructure point of view.

Maybe lobby your representatives to make charging for them illegal and you'll get proper messaging back without selling off your data.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

iMessage because if a chat suddenly goes green and you didn't notice, it costs dozens of euro

There’s a setting in iOS to disable that from happening btw

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well Signal would be pretty much the same as WhatsApp, it sends over internet not mms or sms

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The problem is that everyone assumes you have WhatsApp.

You take clothes to the laundry? The "your order is done" notification is sent via WhatsApp

Any kind of work stuff is also on WhatsApp

You order food delivery? WhatsApp

Amazon started to send delivery notifications via WhatsApp instead of email/sms

And luckily meta is charging businesses 5 cents for messages via API or otherwise even otp codes would be via whatsapp

At least here, being reachable only on signal means being a digital exile

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

Network effects

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I know we're all saying network effects, but I don't know what the fuck network effects means.

Network effects dude. Network effects.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's a simple concept.

You need at least 2 people to form a conversation.

One of them has Whatsapp, Telegram, signal, MSTeams, smoke signals and those flags that ships used to communicate.

The other only has Whatsapp.

They are going to communicate over Whatsapp.

Even if the dude with 1000 communication methods meets another dude with 1000 communication methods, they are going to use WhatsApp, because they are used to using Whatsapp with everyone, so it's just easier to have everyone on WhatsApp.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

those flags that ships used to communicate.

i think those are called semaphore and they're cool as hell. i have a set of flags around here somewhere

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 16 hours ago

I could move to Signal, open up a chat with myself and chat for a while but I think it would get pretty boring pretty soon.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

because it's the de facto sms replacement in many european and south american countries

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

sometimes you want to sent text messages to normal people

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 68 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Because most of the world is already on WhatsApp, and changing to Signal would isolate you from most people and businesses.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

So what? Don't support fascism.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

changing to Signal would isolate you from most people and businesses.

Sounds great - if I wasn't already using Signal, that just might persuade me 😁

[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 9 points 15 hours ago

The only people that believe I'm worth contacting have already switched to Signal and the ones that refused to switch lost contact with me. Their loss I guess.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

Same thing with Twitter and mastodon I guess.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Must be more popular in your country, in Canada I don't know a single person on whatsapp

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's very big in western Europe. Here in the Netherlands everybody is on WhatsApp pretty much since it's creation

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

In Germany too and I remember how upsetting it was to me from the beginning. There were third party messengers that supported established (at the time) services like ICQ or live messenger but people got onto the hot new thing because it’s so much like SMS.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I remember starting to use it because texting was pretty expensive and limited at the time. Whatsapp was free (group) texting when on WiFi and still cheaper when on cellular. If texting wasn't so expensive at the time I really don't think whatsapp would've caught on like it did. Now people are just used to it so that's probably why it's still big

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I lived the switch in second person. My sister kept running out of SMSs to text her boyfriend, and our elder sister told her about Whatsapp and how she could have basically infinite text messages

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. And, combined with the shared amount of texts/minutes (which IIRC for me was something like 100), actually calling people and wanting to text your friends you'd run out of texts very quick. WhatsApp was a godsend at the time.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

This is another reason why I think the key to success is timing. Be the first to provide a service people need, and they'll use it for a long time

[–] OliMoli2137@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Poland , and everybody around me is on WhatsApp, only a few people have Telegram. Searched a bit of saved phone numbers, none had Signal tied to them

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah they're all on Facebook Messenger which sucks. I've managed to switch a few in my surroundings to Signal but I still need to keep Messenger for holdouts.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Thankfully I have managed to get everyone to switch from Messenger to Signal, atleast for talking to me haha. Two other family members being privacy oriented too really helped getting the rest of the family moved over.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get to choose what app my European friends use

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

But you get to choose what app you use. And if they continue to support fascism you have to decide if you want those kind of friends.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

random european "i use whatsapp because it's kind of the default app for a lot of things in my country"

you "fascist"

you see why i might not take you seriously?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

I thought people on here of all places would understand the impact of the network effect.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 19 hours ago

I agree, but the other people all use it 🫠

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Couldn’t be me… but some people don’t care that Meta can read their messages. Or they still don’t know but I doubt it.

Mark Zuckerberg has a term for these people…

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

"dumbfucks"
-Markie Zuc

[–] Mac@mander.xyz -2 points 18 hours ago

You genuinely don't know? 😬