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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At the other end of the spectrum would be a pure carnivore diet, which science studies consistently find to cause increased cardiovascular disease and cancer rates.

You will find there have been no studies on the pure-carnivore (zero carb) diet wrt cvd or oncogenic effects.

There have been observational epidemiology on high carb omnivores (75% plant) which people like to extrapolate around and make causal statements such as 'caused increased.... rates' which the data cannot support.

Food frequency questionaires prove nothing

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pure-carnivore (zero carb) diet

Right, I got a little carried away with the 'pure' angle, but I do recall seeing many abstracts / summaries of studies for quite a few years that found that diets heavy on meat indeed seem to correlate to increased cancer & CVD incidents.

Shouldn't be too surprising based on studies of the GI systems of numerous herbivores vs. numerous Carnivorans, either. Extra-long GI vs. very short one depending on diet. Ours certainly seems to be a middle-ground, omnivore-type GI. AFAIK only rarely do we find from archeology & anthropology evidence that humans ate very-high meat diets, such as Innuit peoples for example.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, I got a little carried away with the ‘pure’ angle,

Fair enough the moment takes us all sometimes.

but I do recall seeing many abstracts / summaries of studies for quite a few years that found that diets heavy on meat indeed seem to correlate to increased cancer & CVD incidents.

Not quite - these are FFQs applied to the general populations so protein is really around 15%. There is considerable debate in the literature if these findings are clinically meaningful.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fair enough the moment takes us all sometimes.

Not just the moment, but the motivation to get the core of a point across to a casual audience with a brevity of verbiage.

Not quite - these are FFQs applied to the general populations so protein is really around 15%. There is considerable debate in the literature if these findings are clinically meaningful.

What is your relevant background in such matters, if I may ask?

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago

Well, not anything like your avatar?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago

What is your relevant background in such matters, if I may ask?

I've been reading the debate with great interest.