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Architect and urban & computational designer Abhinav Bhardwaj made this great set of slides comparing urban design in the US and Europe, peppered with pithy observations like:

  • European space is shaped on purpose: American open space is what’s left over.
  • Small blocks make more corners, more routes, more street life.
  • A fine grid offers hundreds of routes; the tree offers one way out.
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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They gotta be thinking 100 m and 102 m. They added an extra zero for some reason?

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

1.75 m is the height of the person labeled for scale, so if you turn them sideways it would take 57 people drawings to equal 100 m. But in the drawing only about 20 sideways people can fit. So it can't just be an extra 0 added

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

You right, you right

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If you take the 10 m scale below as a measure, the person would be 5 m tall and the 100(0) m would be ~50-60 m.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah at a bare minimum the numbers in this drawing are all completely totally wrong. Is this an AI drawing?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

As the cited paper is from 2008, I was tempted to say no. However, only the relative shares of the modes of transport are from the article, not the graphic itself.

So yes, this is likely an AI generated graphic.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/292752103_Making_cycling_irresistible_Lessons_from_europe

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

One cited paper is from 1889, predating this whole graphics style by about a century. The graphics are probably what an AI made as a response to "illustrate this text passage" or "redraw this figure as vectors". (Yes, this one probably generates vectors, otherwise the font families would be inconsistent within images, not just between them)

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 4 points 4 days ago
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What person would label a human as "1.75 m"? We know what a "human for scale" is. Also, every single graphic, despite credited to the same author, uses a different scale marking: zebra, bar, tick, snaking (and then ignores it). The fonts differ too (look at every capital R) but oddly not within drawings, it seems to be an AI optimized for vector output.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Almost no streets are 100 m wide. Maybe it was originally in inches and the author didn't bother to convert units?

1000 x 0.0254 yields about 25.4 m, which would be pretty reasonable. Let's assume that all lanes are 4 m wide, which would be much more than normal. (Usually, they're closer to 3 m wide each, which would yield about 20 m; 2 m is included for the kerbs to separate traffic).

Then with 6 lanes (2 mainwalks, 2 bicycle lanes, 1 car lane + carriageway), you'd have 24 m. Give 1.4 m for some kerbs and then you get the 25.4 m.

@zaphod@sopuli.xyz , @Successful_Try543@feddit.org , I think I have the answer.^

Not all streets are like that, by the way. All of them have side/mainwalks, but not all have the other lanes. Within European cities, the streets are usually closer to 10 m wide.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You right, 100 meters isn't reasonable. I've had about 3h of sleep in the last 48 or so, so my brain is a bit mush. 😆

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

tbf katy freeway is over 100m wide in some parts. but hopefully that is rare, and probably is 'unreasonable'.

Those dudes need some more trains over there.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Fun facts: The Katy Freeway goes to Katy, Texas, and Katy, Texas is a southern terminus of the Katy Railroad (formally the Missouri, Kansas and Texas railroad, or "MKT"). The Katy was a major passenger railroad once upon a time.

So in a way, the freeway is helping motorists get to the trains, just trains that are in the past.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's a freeway though, I suppose.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Sib?

Yeah I slept well this night. No worries. 😊