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Architect and urban & computational designer Abhinav Bhardwaj made this great set of slides comparing urban design in the US and Europe, peppered with pithy observations like:

  • European space is shaped on purpose: American open space is what’s left over.
  • Small blocks make more corners, more routes, more street life.
  • A fine grid offers hundreds of routes; the tree offers one way out.
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[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Almost no streets are 100 m wide. Maybe it was originally in inches and the author didn't bother to convert units?

1000 x 0.0254 yields about 25.4 m, which would be pretty reasonable. Let's assume that all lanes are 4 m wide, which would be much more than normal. (Usually, they're closer to 3 m wide each, which would yield about 20 m; 2 m is included for the kerbs to separate traffic).

Then with 6 lanes (2 mainwalks, 2 bicycle lanes, 1 car lane + carriageway), you'd have 24 m. Give 1.4 m for some kerbs and then you get the 25.4 m.

@zaphod@sopuli.xyz , @Successful_Try543@feddit.org , I think I have the answer.^

Not all streets are like that, by the way. All of them have side/mainwalks, but not all have the other lanes. Within European cities, the streets are usually closer to 10 m wide.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You right, 100 meters isn't reasonable. I've had about 3h of sleep in the last 48 or so, so my brain is a bit mush. 😆

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

tbf katy freeway is over 100m wide in some parts. but hopefully that is rare, and probably is 'unreasonable'.

Those dudes need some more trains over there.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Fun facts: The Katy Freeway goes to Katy, Texas, and Katy, Texas is a southern terminus of the Katy Railroad (formally the Missouri, Kansas and Texas railroad, or "MKT"). The Katy was a major passenger railroad once upon a time.

So in a way, the freeway is helping motorists get to the trains, just trains that are in the past.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's a freeway though, I suppose.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Sib?

Yeah I slept well this night. No worries. 😊