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It is a bigger, don't have the Steam Controller dongle integrated, and you need to manually install SteamOS on it.

But you get a machine that can be upgraded way more easily than the Steam Machine, and a better GPU from the start.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The steam machine is within the margins of prebuilt costs. Its a bad deal because building a PC right now is just a bad deal. Matching the form factor is the biggest cost destroyer. If you want a small efficient gaming PC you dont get much better than the steam machine but if you've got enough space for a big 9060 XT then you arent competing vs the steam machine. Granted this is amazing advertising and got to hand it to them. But steam machine isnt 1039 euro is it wouldnt it be more like 900 euro.

[–] TheMightyCat@ani.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats cooked, thats the same as USD

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have to take into account the price is always shown with VAT included in the EU, not in the US.

The price without VAT in France would be €865,83.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a 15% vat in my country so I guess im just not used to the US not having a vat. Stupid US stop excluding tax from your prices its insanity

[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The trouble is, tax rate varies dramatically across the whole U.S. We don't have a consistent nationwide VAT like much of the rest of the world.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Not gonna lie, sometimes US seems way more divided up than EU

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ok so make it consistent then? Doesnt seem like a problem to me.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay so make it consistent then?

Easier said than done.

There is no Federal VAT, and each state decides its own tax policy. Most states charge a “sales tax.” Some states charge more, other states charge less. These are set by the state and depend on each state’s overall budget and taxation structure. For example, a state like Tennessee that doesn’t collect income tax may require a higher sales tax to meet budget demands, whereas a state like Oregon that collects a high income tax may have no sales tax at all.

What’s more, some states let local municipalities charge sales tax. Alaska actually charges no state sales tax, but allows local sales taxes. Several states have both a state and local sales tax. So even within a state it can be different depending on where you are.

So instead our prices don’t include tax and we just know we have to throw on anywhere from 0% to 11% depending on our location.

In order for pricing to include taxes, you’d have to display a different price for every state or municipality. Or, we’d have to get everyone to agree on one VAT standard, which will not happen because different states have wildly different ideologies regarding taxation.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 day ago

Ok I will leave it to you to do what you gotta do to fix it. Bring them in line. You're in a country with 52 cats right now.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Civil rights aren't even equal from state to state.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

That would be a good place to start

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somes states don't even have sales tax

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago

Stop you're scaring me

[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Building a PC isn't that bad. $1000 is plenty for a competent 1080p machine, especially with DLSS or FSR or even just Lossless Scaling involved.

If you don't care about playing the latest and greatest, you can come in around 500 if you can find some decent secondhand deals. 3060's can be had for around 200 used and they'll play pretty much anything indie just fine and can probably even handle modern demanding titles with aggressive DLSS and turning features down or off. You can go cheaper with a 2060 super for about 50 less or get a 4060 for about 50 more. Team red will probably be a little cheaper overall, although FSR isn't quite as good as DLSS at squeezing every last frame out of the chip.

If you'll only be playing stuff like Stardew, Crosscode, etc - and there's a ton of great games like that - then you don't even need a discrete GPU at all.