Fizz

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Medicare includes disabled people of all ages and Insulin is used for people of all ages. Sure majority of the users are elderly but so what elder will always require the most medical care and any effort to bring that cost down for them is great.

You're the one trying to attack the policy saying it ONLY affected elderly. It didnt only affectly elderly and that's only affecting elderly isnt a reason against it.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh thats my bad, I thought this comment chain was coming off the statement "the child tax credit only lasted one year, and the cost reduction was only for the elderly"

I guess your argument is that the policy was right wing because it didnt do enough. Is that correct?

My point is that dems are left wing because they try and push the country left.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 14 hours ago

Why are you using the word primarily when the original comment said "only". Just admit Medicare doesnt only include old people, its fine.

"Once it expired in 2022" they're not talking about the CTC expiring. There they are talking about the recovery spending plan ending. The CTC still continued after 2022.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Why are you using the word primarily?

"Once it expired in 2022" they're not talking about the CTC expiring.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

CTC only lasted 1 year

wait no I mean CTC ended under biden

well actually it expires under trump but somehow this is still bidens fault.

Its actually gross how hard you try and undermine the left. Even when you are shown things that directly show ctc existing for more than a year throughout bidens entire term you never reconsider and think oh maybe I was wrong its not the dems who killed this. What would it take for you to blame trump? I bet even if trump used an executive order to remove the CTC you would be there saying "noo biden should have done more. Never vote dems" its almost like you want a right wing government.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago

Their source is directly contradicting what they said in both instances.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The person claimed the child tax credit ended after only a year. Thats incorrect. Biden temporary increase to the child tax credit was allocated for a single year. After that the child tax credit continued.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wild how you can read all this and walk away thinking I'm the one who is wrong. They made the claim drug price reduction was only for elderly then linked a source that said it was for elderly and other Medicare enrollees. They made the claim CTC only lasted a year then linked a source that said it has been around since 1997 and is still around.

This should be a massive wakeup call to any reasonable person. If you still can't see that his statements were completely false.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So you linked something that said that the CTC didnt last a single year and that the drug price reduction wasnt only for old people. Thanks for proving me right now can I get an admission that you were completely wrong?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Firstly that ceasefire was negotiated by biden admin. Secondly when you're talking about a government benefiting everyone its pretty obviously meaning their own citizens. Now that I known the error of my ways I'll make sure to scream "what about Palestinians" when I hear someone refer to everyone.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It should be, but Americans still dont want universal healthcare. The last polling I saw had it at just over 50% supporting Universal healthcare. If you want to implement a huge change like universal healthcare you probably want to have at least 70% of the people on board. Otherwise you implement it and half the country tries to drag it down and make it unusable. Look at how the right wing in the UK is trying to destroy their national healthcare system.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Its ending under trump. The 1 year of significantly boosted CTC was government assistance given to people. The right wing version of that would have been tax cuts for business. Could he have passed legislation that kept ctc at that amount, probably not and it would likely be repealed by Trump. Just because something could be better doesn't mean it isn't good. If you use "it could be better" as an justification for something being bad then people can say the same thing about things you mention. Oh yeah he passed boosted CTC forever well he should have increased it more, he should have given to to all families, he should just give that money to everyone. Lets be realistic instead of delusional so things in the real world can actually get better.

 

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