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[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to compare the civilian deaths in Gaza’s genocide to military deaths in Ukraine’s war, you can. It’s dishonest, but you can.

My perspective is that the Ukrainians brought this upon themselves, first by overthrowing their democracy, second by failing to abide by the Minsk agreements, and lastly by threatening Russia by attempting to join NATO and claiming that they have the right to obtain nuclear weapons.

Each one on its own is insane, but together it’s hard to have any sympathy for Ukraine when their government has chosen to escalate at every opportunity.

[–] Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

first by overthrowing their democracy

They didn't. They legally removed a Russian agent that was passing a series of very antidemocratic laws.

threatening Russia by attempting to join NATO

Joining a defensive alliance is only a threat to an aggressor, so thanks for your admission I guess.

and claiming that they have the right to obtain nuclear weapons.

They wouldn't have of Russia hadn't invaded

It's all 100% on Russia.

But you know that already. That's the worst part. You're not misinformed, you're a liar.

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

This is bad counter-propaganda, as you’re lying about the basic facts. Also, you totally skipped over the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine agreed to and then refused to enforce. They had a peace agreement and then decided to ignore it and escalate. That proves they were acting in bad faith the whole time.

Also, it was a given that Russia would invade as soon as Ukraine tried to use NATO to continue breaking the Minsk Agreement. NATO is an aggressive military alliance that has sought to encircle Russia since the USSR collapsed, and allowing a NATO country to emerge within bombing range of Moscow was a non-starter. Again, Ukraine never wanted peace. They wanted and chose escalation.

[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago

You're the one who brought up gaza.

Russia invaded. Russia is welcome to fuck off whenever they're tired of throwing soldiers into the meat grinder. I have all the sympathy for the people in Ukraine who are fighting off Putin's war of aggression.

Lastly, eat shit.