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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

It's crazy how behind US is on that. Americans say "yeah but US is bjg and mostly empty space" so is Asia and the rest of the world yet they are not defeated by a cable. It's just cable laying - come on, we solved cable laying 50 years ago.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The US has a weird mix of big emplty spaces, really fucking expensive existing underground utilities and roadways, and private property (easements ain't free) that makes new underground utilities stupidly expensive to run.

You have to buy big easements, negotiate utility contracts with local and state governments (to use the public right-of-way), dodge existing infrastructure while repairing what you break, and lay a fuckton of cable.

I work on the municipal side, and despite Google Fiber having a utility agreement with us for years they still have yet to lay a single foot of underground fiber because we won't allow them to cut across roads that we just replaced in the last year, require their microtrenches to follow engineering standards, and they need to show existing underground water, gas, wastewater, and electrical services on their plans because they're famous for just running a trench and making it the water district's problem when they cut 7 public lines in an hour.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Same reason rural places in the US also haven't discovered electricity yet. Oh, wait…

[–] GenericUsername@thelemmy.club 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

How many big empty rural areas in Asia have fiber optics internet relative to big empty rural areas in the US? I thought starlink was heavily used by a lot of counties where people didnt have great access to internet?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Basic all rural areas have fiber/cell towers in Asia. Depends how you measure it but like 90% of populated Asia is connected and most of these stats are only being held back by Russia too.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

How many big empty rural areas in Asia have fiber optics internet relative to big empty rural areas in the US?

I think China has done it for all of their rural villages (or maybe 98% it seems)

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/02/WS5d43f3c6a310cf3e355639b3.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1043951X22001110